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PRCD

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Right on!

The kids aren’t on the lawn. The kids are inside chatting on Facebook. The Mexican gardeners are on the lawn once a week.
And their kids are inside chatting on TikTok.
 

hammies

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The kids aren’t on the lawn. The kids are inside chatting on Facebook. The Mexican gardeners are on the lawn once a week.
FB is for old people. No self respecting teenaged person would be caught dead on it except to maintain a wholsome profile for the parents.
 

Mr Doof

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I'm really stuck by how easy the interment makes confirming one's biases and feelings.

In the old days you would have to put some effort into it.
Bear with me for a second....

Remember "chainmail"? Did you ever get any or personally know someone who got some?

No wait, that is adjacent to where I wanna go...

Remember "midnight movies" or "off-off-Broadway" theatre productions or "new" music or certain festivals, you know, stuff that might better be described as "things you pay for that were very much non-standard and likely get you considered some type of deviant".

It was something that you had to work to find and there was a cost to it. But oh, once there, how great was it to find what you were looking for, how fantastic was it to be surrounded by you fellow ilk?

Suddenly what was out there was normal, accepted.

But really, that was all in your head.

To the rest of us, your kind were a pox on the great collective.

But rather than stamp you into grape jelly and export you to feed the starving in Estonia, society said, "Hey, we can make a buck off of this and say, 'freedom of choice' and give them a safe place to do their thing in ornate buildings with geometric signs nailed to walls, warehouses, or the desert hinterlands."

Eventually equilibrium was achieved and was constantly be challenged, but hey, you could go to your Striper show on Saturday night, skip Sunday morning church due to the hangover, and Monday, back to designing weapon systems while thinking about your affair with your spouse's best friend's dog trainer.

Then came the internet and greatly lowered the barriers of entry to (your version of) weirdness. In a way, it was improved, targeted chainmail for everyone all the time, and boy was it cheap for both producers and consumers.

Dilettantes, that's the real problem.:computer:
 

PRCD

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College is basically a large mortgage with a high interest rate for a piece of sheepskin saying you're employable in higher-IQ professions. An IQ test and an apprenticeship would work much better to determine if the candidate has the raw brains and the aptitude. Meanwhile, he would get paid. Aside from the IQ test - which is mostly unnecessary - most people have always entered the working world without college.
 

hammies

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A college degree makes it a lot easier for employers to minimize hiring risk. For instance, a computer science degree means you have demonstrated XXX capability in database development, systems and OS programming, algorithm development, and so on. Someone could learn how to do all that on their own, or work their way up from a help desk assistant to developer in another company, and be just as good or maybe even better than the CS grad. But it's a lot more work for the hiring manager to ascertain someone's skills they developed along the way vs. just having a degree. By the time someone is in their late 20s or 30s, a degree matters very little except in certain situations.
 
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Autoprax

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College is still awesome.

It's just too expensive

Wokeness is not the real danger.

It's the corporatization and the special programs and the power grab by the admins. The admins are using wokeness to make the grab.

Hananania and the rest of team right wing retard get it wrong every time.
 

One-Off

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The good news is that no matter how dumb you are, you can always wash out into the humanities. Job security!
I know a Shakespeare actor. He may not be good at math, but he can memorize entire Shakespeare plays and recite the different parts with the emotional inflections the context presumes. I would argue he doesn't need to do long division.:foreheadslap:
 
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afoaf

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Your kids compete with foreign nationals for slots in the UC. They pay more. China will keep sending them to steal IP. Seems like UC enrollment will stay high because the CCP will continue to send students to steal and work their way into the academic ranks like one of my profs who got arrested for sending IP to China. Your kid probably won't get in and if he does, he'll pay far more in inflation-adjusted dollars than you did.
#SKYISFALLINGLIST

Things that directly portend or cause the end of civilization (California) as we know it....

Foreign students stealing our IP (added)
Bad genetics among white people
Lack of Biblical Morals in Teachers
Bureaucrats that look like witches (physiognomy)
Lack of "piety" in elected officials
Women in Government
College Enrollment
Pfizer
Travel
Psychedelics
Primary Care
HR
The FBI
CA Public Schools
Balkanization of the US
The War Racket
Gascon/Newsome
 

afoaf

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I think the anti-US faux-chinese Twitter accounts are hilarious

it's the logical extension of 4channery

love it

China could subsume us, but I don't think they are really all that competent
 

Autoprax

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When you write your book and you are being interviewed on a podcast and the interviewer asks you how you wrote your book, you could be all, "Well, you see, there is this really religious guy on a surfing bulletin board. . . ."
 
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Can we now talk about the occupations that are absolutely needed these days but absolutely require a certified college curriculum to meet the occupation's minimum requirements? Y'know, the ones in which life and death decisions cannot be avoided? There are lots of them, right?
 
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Can we now talk about the occupations that are absolutely needed these days but absolutely require a certified college curriculum to meet the occupation's minimum requirements? Y'know, the ones in which life and death decisions cannot be avoided? There are lots of them, right?
They will be replaced by social media influencers

they are the new experts now.