I use mine as a small wave performance groveler. Works really well for the small yet steep beach breaks near me.For those of you who have surfed an Evo, what type of waves do you think it works best in? Thanks.
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I use mine as a small wave performance groveler. Works really well for the small yet steep beach breaks near me.For those of you who have surfed an Evo, what type of waves do you think it works best in? Thanks.
Don't think XTR can modify the file they have like that, but worth a call to Shey to ask. I'm sure you could do it through Tomo's OZ-based custom program. Seen those swallowtails on his Instagram. Probably about same price as XTR too.Does XTR have a Hydroshort template with a swallowtail? Is this possible with the template/concaves?
I emailed Dan about this. The Hydroshort Swallow is available through his AUS custom program, but not through XTR. My customs from AUS was $890 USD. Shipping was supposed to be around $200 in addition.Does XTR have a Hydroshort template with a swallowtail? Is this possible with the template/concaves?
That's an interesting question. I have a had a few Evos in various sizes, and I've always thought of that board as more of a daily driver.Funny someone posted in this thread... I was going to post a question on Tomo Grovelers today.
With conditions being as small as they have been lately, what Tomo design would you say is best suited for Groveling or for small wave conditions? I've always reached for the Evo. Im sure JKB will swear by the GMM2. Any other suggestions on Tomo boards for small wave conditions?
Not at all. My first GMM2 was 4'10 x 18. My new one is 5'1 x 18 1/2. For you, I would do something like 4'11 x 18 1/8 or 5'0 x 18 1/4.......whichever you're more comfortable with. Don't be afraid of the wide tail. It's very nimble on this design.Hmmm. Good info.
I've been riding a friends grovel board and having a lot of fun with it. Its a thick, wide board with a wing and swallow tail. Looks like an egg with a pulled in swallow tail and a wing. It floats extremely well and its super loose. I was getting some nice little turns in on some ankle high waves these past few days and got me thinking about Tomo boards as grovelers and none really came to mind other than the GMM2 and Evo. But i've heard people describe an evo as a board for good waves (like SD Dan said).
I have a small foot, so I was thinking about boards with a not-so-wide tail. Maybe a custom GMM2 is the way to go? @jkb would you think 18 or 18 1/8 is too skinny for a groveler?
Ive got a couple of Vanguards. I customised one and its closer to stock size evo dimensions for my size. (I didnt gel with the vader or evo).Funny someone posted in this thread... I was going to post a question on Tomo Grovelers today.
With conditions being as small as they have been lately, what Tomo design would you say is best suited for Groveling or for small wave conditions? I've always reached for the Evo. Im sure JKB will swear by the GMM2. Any other suggestions on Tomo boards for small wave conditions?
I owned an EL Tomo, but it was the twin/keel version. Didn't click with the double foiled keels right away so I switched to flat foiled Akila twin fins and the board felt much better to me. The rocker was definitely tuned down from the V4 to handle smaller waves, but the fin set up didn't excel in those conditions. I could surf it in waist high waves, but preferred not to. When I got it on a weaker, more cruisy wave, I would have rather been on a thruster (I'm a thruster guy). It really shined in head high barreling conditions. Rode it in Oceanside on a few head high to overhead South swells and it was at its best in those waves. I ended up selling it (Deforest bought it) because it was a bit too specialized for my taste, but still a good board IMO.Also, the marketing for his "El Tomo" model (clearly based on his earlier V4) on XTR & his custom site describes it as for weak waves. I've been curious about this shape (especially as a quad), but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'm on quad fish variations (a Rusty & a Machado PU Seaside) in small waves these days.
I think keel fin designs just like some push to get going (generally speaking). With the curve of a barreling wave, it would drop in and go really quick and maintain speed effortlessly through fast sections. It was a lot of fun in those conditions, but when a weaker wave required some pumping to get down the line, it didn't want to get up and go. It wanted to be surfed at a different pace then what I was used to in typical NCSD conditions. That's when I like the rear fin of a thruster to push off.....but I think the El Tomo would do better in those conditions as a quad.huh. Based on how they described it, I would not have expected it to shine in hollow waves. Interesting.
Oh interesting. The “new” El Tomo being the one he makes in Oz or a prototype for FW ? is the Evo rocker more/less compared to what it was before?I saw the new El Tomo at firewire when I met Dan a few months ago. It looked like he made some changes from the El Tomo that i bought from JKB. It has an Evo rocker now, and he changed the fin placement. The rear fins are set a little wide -- so I'm guessing it will feel loose and drivy. I think he had the reactor quad set up in it when I saw it. It seems like a really sick board. Cant wait to ride one!
I saw a prototype for Firewire, but I am assuming its the same as the ones he's making in OZ. I think its a different rocker, but not sure. The quad seems much better than the dual fin design. Although i've been riding an old Raptor Dual Fin with his glass on Powerdrive Fins and the board feels insane! I wish I was around in those 2008-2010 days... I heard the Errbb was a buzz and Tomo's boards were the talk of the town! Sounds like epic times!Oh interesting. The “new” El Tomo being the one he makes in Oz or a prototype for FW ? is the Evo rocker more/less compared to what it was before?
The quad seems ideal for the average day at the soft reefs around here