I lasted like three mins, much to my girlfriend's dismay.
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Stab in the dark 2023
- Thread starter waxfoot
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Another episode, again... can;t see a single difference in any board
I kept watching for Brazo birds wearing bangers on the beach.
ps: random musing: Is Hayden the sharper with the worst SITD record ("waste of a tailpad by jordy, never made it through any round?), yet one of the best selling shapers - tells you the difference between the everyman, and the pro.
I kept watching for Brazo birds wearing bangers on the beach.
ps: random musing: Is Hayden the sharper with the worst SITD record ("waste of a tailpad by jordy, never made it through any round?), yet one of the best selling shapers - tells you the difference between the everyman, and the pro.
I watched all 3 episodes. Personally I try to watch each one as they come out. I binge watched Mason and Coco’s Electric Acid series and it was too much for one sitting. Everything mashed together and it was hard to see which boars stood out.
Most surfers are going to surf how they surf unless you put them on a log compared to a shortboar. Italo surfs each boar the same because that’s how he surfs. But I could tell just by his body language which boars he wasn’t feeling.
He surfed best on the boars that made the finals. I think the CI is going to win.
I like that he used the same fins for each boar besides the Mayhem. Read an interview with Simon Anderson and he said when working on new designs he uses the same set of fins in each iteration because he wants to know what each tweak are doing to the designs and changing fins will also cause a different feel.
I don’t like that it’s PU/PE vs EPS/Epoxy. Adding another variable besides just the design of the boar. I feel for the shapers that had their boars creased only cause that happened to a Tokoro on Jack Robinson’s SITD.
Most surfers are going to surf how they surf unless you put them on a log compared to a shortboar. Italo surfs each boar the same because that’s how he surfs. But I could tell just by his body language which boars he wasn’t feeling.
He surfed best on the boars that made the finals. I think the CI is going to win.
I like that he used the same fins for each boar besides the Mayhem. Read an interview with Simon Anderson and he said when working on new designs he uses the same set of fins in each iteration because he wants to know what each tweak are doing to the designs and changing fins will also cause a different feel.
I don’t like that it’s PU/PE vs EPS/Epoxy. Adding another variable besides just the design of the boar. I feel for the shapers that had their boars creased only cause that happened to a Tokoro on Jack Robinson’s SITD.
Man, that sounds like a good time. Hope we can order something like that in the near future. So far the CI looking the best.
The Pyzel looked pretty good too in a very Pyzel kind of way. Nice to see them come out with something new/promising. Modified Radius perhaps? A little less rocker, a little bit more nose width?
I thought the Lost looked good too but the driver always looks good in the SITD. Given the breadth of the lost team and how long they've been working on that shape, I'd bet it's the single best-performing/most versatile shape on the bench year over year.
Only on episode 2 now.
One variable that is almost never talked about is fin placement- placement, toe and cant. Those can have huge impacts. Maybe thrusters are all standardized now? 3-1/4 and 11, 6 degrees and 3/16? I wouldn't know. fof example I've never heard Noel Salsa say anything about toe or cant. Board manufacturers never mention it. Secret sauce?
Italo rides Futures. The cant is manufactured into the fin.
FCS the plugs have different cant angles.
I remember I posted a Vesso boar review and from the picture Griffin could tell the toe in was 1/4 less than standard. When I measured it he was spot on. I asked Kerry Tokoro about it and he said that I turn hard and need more control which the lesser toe in would help with. I think I surprised him that I noticed. I didn’t and wouldn’t cause I trust my shapers. But Griffin spotted right away. Haha.
I was under the impression the thruster shortboard standard was 9 degrees of cant?
Here’s the spec for the AM2 the large set it looked like Italo was using. So 6.5 degrees of cant.
Huh I never noticed they had cant in the specs. I'm surprised they don't have rake/sweep listed.
Pretty sure the older, bluish EN's were less than 6.5 degrees of cant. More like 4 which seems to be a common number for twins and keels.
Pretty cool futures is finally publishing the cant.
seems theyre coming around to 6.5deg on twins
seems theyre coming around to 6.5deg on twins
I checked at least a dozen futures and they all said 6.5. I couldn't find a single one that had cant listed and deviated.
T1 are 4, as are Rasta (keel and upright). Zach Flores set as well.
they used to say all of their twins were 4deg unless otherwise specified, iirc.