not pull-up related, but this one was interesting:
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With the pull you have momentum. Lifting the arms there’s only resistance (gravity.I’ll agree that lifting your arms out of the water hundreds of times does take quite a bit of energy given that the muscle group doing the lifting is relatively small.
But I’d also argue that pulling your entire body through water requires more power.
I’d have to read up on it. I hope there are some papers on biomechanics of paddling or at least swimming. I’ll report back when I find something worth reading.
Aerobic output/VO2 max FTW.not pull-up related, but this one was interesting:
Body building is terrible for paddling.Anytime I have seen high level competitive swimmers in a weight room with a coach/trainer, (college level athletes primarily) they have been mostly doing very light cable pull-downs and pull-overs. Pretty much always light cable movements. Never saw them going heavy or doing full body weight PUs. If you have the genetics for it, doing full body weight overhand wide grip pull ups (in a strict, slow fashion) on a regular basis is going to increase muscle mass in your lats. Biceps as well. Big muscles gas faster. This is why you don't see beefy endurance athletes of any note. Everything is a compromise and what works for one person won't work for the next. IMO. Body type and genetics matter. To make matters worse you have sprint paddling vs endurance paddling. I've really never found anything that I've done in the weight room to be of significant help re using it as a substitute for paddling/conditioning. As a supplement it can help, but not as an alternative. For that, get in the pool. That transfers. Pull ups have done nothing for me re paddling. I used to do a 100 wide grip, strict overhand pull ups for a back workout. Not in one set, just keep count, do as many as possible and then rest and continue the count. If anything my paddling endurance declined doing the above. Good way to build mass in your upper back though.
Not if you’re starting from zero and you start sprint paddlingWith the pull you have momentum. Lifting the arms there’s only resistance (gravity.
Neural priming and muscle fiber recruitment....these are probably the main point of this exercise in the context of surfing.Body building is terrible for paddling.
We used to do 50 pull ups for our warm up and then do our back workout.
Trying to surf the next day was always terrible.
Surfing and then trying to do a body builder work out was always terrible too.
I think doing 5 pull ups every time you walk by the PU bar could help paddling due to the neural priming.
That is different that going into the gym to smoke that body part.
Yes indeed. If you're a sh!t paddler pull ups ain't going to do anything besides make you stronger. If you paddle decently with good technique as most proficient surfers do, it's only going to add to that power output. The idea isn't to burn yourself out with pull ups, do a few sets explosively with good form and there will only be benefits.As a supplement it can help, but not as an alternative.
Genetics.
My back got huge just from pull ups.
My calves wouldn't grow no matter how much trashed them in the gym
I don't know...I can feel sore all over after a few days of long surfs, but sometimes it is my triceps and forearms that ache the most, especially around my elbows. Though I mainly think the bilateral radial head fractures from a bicycle wreck is the primary driver of that elbow/muscle ache.the fatigue from paddling is in the shoulders. When you have an extremely long session and your sore the next day where are you sore? Not the lats.
Narrow grip, use swing/momentum up, and drop fast. Just moving the grip out further would probably cut their numbers in half. Or more. Not to mention slowing the speed down and using strict form.Yes indeed. If you're a sh!t paddler pull ups ain't going to do anything besides make you stronger. If you paddle decently with good technique as most proficient surfers do, it's only going to add to that power output. The idea isn't to burn yourself out with pull ups, do a few sets explosively with good form and there will only be benefits.
Something I heard long ago about being fit (and getting fit and stay fit) that resonated with me when I was younger was that the first thing one should strive for is 'form'.I probably mentioned it already but t-spine mobility is going to affect how hard you work to paddle.
The best paddlers are efficient.
The is a Chinese rower chick who is 35 and she smokes the 23 year olds.
Her trainer said it was because of the efficiency of her movement.
Do they do the same for their steroid-shrunken testicles?And calfs that won't respond are not a cliche without reason. That's why body builders get silicone calf implants. i sh!t you not.
No. Because those aren't judged. Plus in a speedo, you can stuff whatever in there.Do they do the same for their steroid-shrunken testicles?
That sounds like a very odd scene.No. Because those aren't judged. Plus in a speedo, you can stuff whatever in there.
Don't ask me how I know this.
In the 80s I was working out in this gym that had a lot of competitive body builders in it. They're weird. You could find syringes in the bathroom wastebaskets. There was one time this guy had a meet coming up and he was doing heavy squats. Before every lift his gay body building lover would start screaming at him about how he was a weak little worm. Squat boy would get more and more agitated until they were both screaming at each other and then he would grab a handful of chest hair, rip it out and then start squatting. This was instead of shaving/waxing before the meet. Hair all over floor. The 80s. Good times.
fixedWith the pull you have momentum. Lifting the arms there’s only resistance (gravity. + a 5/4/3 wetsuit
Right. I'm betting this was probably right around the time of his misbegotten comeback. RIPThat sounds like a very odd scene.
Where was Lyle Alzado when you needed him to eat their brains?
Yep. That guy made the Tooz seem sane.Right. I'm betting this was probably right around the time of his misbegotten comeback. RIP