Waikiki During Quarantine

[PJ]

Starting off with a bubble with Japan - putting aside its legality - from a practical business restart standpoint that seems like a good idea. As someone else posted here they're 20% of the visitors but 30% of the dollars. And I think they would be less likely to break the rules (as long as they know what they are), either because of their nature or because when in a foreign country I think most reasonable people try to steer well clear of any rule breaking.

Here in NY State our governor just issued an executive order that allows businesses to deny entry to anyone not wearing a mask, which is good but still open to some haggling by a customer. In San Francisco they just made it illegal to serve anyone not wearing a mask, which I think is better because this takes the decision out of the hands of the poor girl behind the cash register and if she gets some static she can look down the street and say she just saw the inspector around and the store next door was just fined the other day and she'll lose her job.

Here's a link to their new ordinance. Outdoors even in a situation where you don't need to have your mask on it must be in plain sight. If you get within 30 feet of someone not in your domestic group you must put your mask on, the idea is that when you're moving if you start donning at 30' you'll have it on at 6'. Paragraph 3d and 3e for workplaces is pretty good - I'm going to use that to inform our policies in my office which have to adhere to the NY State guidelines.

San Francisco Facemask Ordinance

 

[the janitor]

Starting off with a bubble with Japan - putting aside its legality - from a practical business restart standpoint that seems like a good idea. As someone else posted here they're 20% of the visitors but 30% of the dollars. And I think they would be less likely to break the rules (as long as they know what they are), either because of their nature or because when in a foreign country I think most reasonable people try to steer well clear of any rule breaking.

Here in NY State our governor just issued an executive order that allows businesses to deny entry to anyone not wearing a mask, which is good but still open to some haggling by a customer. In San Francisco they just made it illegal to serve anyone not wearing a mask, which I think is better because this takes the decision out of the hands of the poor girl behind the cash register and if she gets some static she can look down the street and say she just saw the inspector around and the store next door was just fined the other day and she'll lose her job.

Here's a link to their new ordinance. Outdoors even in a situation where you don't need to have your mask on it must be in plain sight. If you get within 30 feet of someone not in your domestic group you must put your mask on, the idea is that when you're moving if you start donning at 30' you'll have it on at 6'. Paragraph 3d and 3e for workplaces is pretty good - I'm going to use that to inform our policies in my office which have to adhere to the NY State guidelines.

San Francisco Facemask Ordinance

That 30 feet when outside rule is ridonculous. Oh the scolding that people will be empowered to attempt. Example: you are walking from your house at the end of maybe Judah street, in your wetsuit, with your surfboard, on your way to go surf. You will for sure be within 30 feet of several people on your way to the water. Mask up!

 

[Subway]

Yeah there is a bit of that here even on our “quiet” east end of LB. Occasional dirty looks as you walk down to surf, when you are not even 30 YARDS from some masked Karen’s. I’m all about masks in stores, reasonable civil behavior in a time of heightened tensions etc but come on already. Viral Load people, google it

 

[oneula]

with all the crap going on in the world right now people forget that there's allot more to this special place that people with money in their pockets have turned into their private playgorund/dumping ground.
Over here we've had our own "kanaka lives/culture matters" George Floyd social breaking moment the past two years and handled it in a way our kupuna taught us how , the pono way. Something the rest of the world could learn a lesson from if they just cared to.

We are more here than just somethng to be bought

This is how you protest
This i how you get arrested for your convictions
With Pono
and
Kapu Aloha

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We protested in song this time and 125 years ago during the overthrow with the "stone eating song"

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[Bob Dobbalina]

with all the crap going on in the world right now people forget that there's allot more to this special place that people with money in their pockets have turned into their private playgorund/dumping ground.
Over here we've had our own "kanaka lives/culture matters" George Floyd social breaking moment the past two years and handled it in a way our kupuna taught us how , the pono way. Something the rest of the world could learn a lesson from if they just cared to.

We are more here than just somethng to be bought

This is how you protest
This i how you get arrested for your convictions
With Pono
and
Kapu Aloha

With all due respect, and I mean that, how did these efforts turn out?

I'm in a meeting and can't go research the outcome, but I feel like I remember UH and the rest of the special interests on the mountain ended up doing what they wanted.

Please correct me if I've got it wrong

 

[sussle]

Yeah there is a bit of that here even on our “quiet” east end of LB. Occasional dirty looks as you walk down to surf, when you are not even 30 YARDS from some masked Karen’s. I’m all about masks in stores, reasonable civil behavior in a time of heightened tensions etc but come on already. Viral Load people, google it

yup, i can live with masks inside enclosed public spaces...i don't see it as much different than being required to wear shoes, shirt etc. in stores.

 

[the janitor]

Yeah there is a bit of that here even on our “quiet” east end of LB. Occasional dirty looks as you walk down to surf, when you are not even 30 YARDS from some masked Karen’s. I’m all about masks in stores, reasonable civil behavior in a time of heightened tensions etc but come on already. Viral Load people, google it

I will politely decline your invitation to Google "Viral Load"


but that has to be a porn title by now

 

[racer1]

With all due respect, and I mean that, how did these efforts turn out?

I'm in a meeting and can't go research the outcome, but I feel like I remember UH and the rest of the special interests on the mountain ended up doing what they wanted.

Please correct me if I've got it wrong

TMT still hasn't made any progress on the Telescope. Protestors have stalled them. Protestors are now working on activating people against those that are funding the telescope (e.g. Getting universities (that are funding TMT) students to protest not to fund the telescope), among other strategies.

Meanwhile, the alternate site on the Canary Islands is all permitted and ready to go - says their government.

 

[Mr Doof]

I will politely decline your invitation to Google "Viral Load"


but that has to be a porn title by now

Someone has a guilty conscience


And sadly for me, my image search of the term came up with nada:





But a little Google fu gets you:

 

[Bob Dobbalina]

TMT still hasn't made any progress on the Telescope. Protestors have stalled them. Protestors are now working on activating people against those that are funding the telescope (e.g. Getting universities (that are funding TMT) students to protest not to fund the telescope), among other strategies.

Meanwhile, the alternate site on the Canary Islands is all permitted and ready to go - says their government.

That's great.
I remember hearing about it, then the news, algorithms, and public interest/outcry shifted and I never heard how it progressed.

I was hoping it didn't get broken up and turn out like most resistance efforts by Indigenous Leadership. DAPL, Wetʼsuwetʼen in Canada, etc

 

[oneula]

howz the Rusty Kona Peaberry?

My farm2table membership link is trying to offer me a deal
I just don't know if it's a deal or not

If so maybe some of those convicts in the states might want some
you know those locked up folks with nothing to do except make tictok coffee

 

[Bullnutts]

If that is the Obra ohana then it's Kau which is top of the list for me. The price on the Rusty website for Peaberry is up there. I'm sure its good.

 

[PJ]

queens

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Mahalo for the music and the videos Oneula - I checked off "watch later" then played them on the TV with my wife when I got home. The Queens videos were really nice. I have that Don Ho's Greatest Hits album - it's a great album - I also like "The Following Sea" and "Down by The Shack by The Sea" from that album. With that album I realized that Don Ho has a sound a lot like Dean Martin - it was probably the style of the time. My father said Dean Martin was underrated as a singer and when I got Dean's Greatest Hits album I realized what he meant. I play both those albums a lot in the summer in my yard.

 

[HarryLopez]

Not related, but DAMN, the vids of Panics and guys ripping lately is like watching internet porn! Cheeehu!

 

[racer1]

There's been fun waves for 3 weeks now and looks like another week or two of it continuing.

 

[PPK96754]

Mahalo for the music and the videos Oneula - I checked off "watch later" then played them on the TV with my wife when I got home. The Queens videos were really nice. I have that Don Ho's Greatest Hits album - it's a great album - I also like "The Following Sea" and "Down by The Shack by The Sea" from that album. With that album I realized that Don Ho has a sound a lot like Dean Martin - it was probably the style of the time. My father said Dean Martin was underrated as a singer and when I got Dean's Greatest Hits album I realized what he meant. I play both those albums a lot in the summer in my yard.

I grew up and lived across Kalakaua Ave from Queens. Barry Kanaiaupuni's Dad, Elmo was our landlord. We surfed Queens for hours, every day and learned our skills from the Waikiki Beachboy's. I was fortunate enough to win the first Queen's contest in 1961 against some very note worthy friends that also grew up in Waikiki and surfing the South Shore. The Sallas Ohana has been on Waikiki Beach teaching surfing for decades. Queen's, has always been one of the premiere spots to surf on Oahu's south shore.

 

[oneula]

queens

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Mahalo for the music and the videos Oneula - I checked off "watch later" then played them on the TV with my wife when I got home. The Queens videos were really nice. I have that Don Ho's Greatest Hits album - it's a great album - I also like "The Following Sea" and "Down by The Shack by The Sea" from that album. With that album I realized that Don Ho has a sound a lot like Dean Martin - it was probably the style of the time. My father said Dean Martin was underrated as a singer and when I got Dean's Greatest Hits album I realized what he meant. I play both those albums a lot in the summer in my yard.
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Glad you enjoyed them
Some of us were lucky to have surfed Queens in the late 60's early 70's when it wasn't too crowded. Some like Peter and others surfed it probably a decade or more early when it was less crowded. We used to go out and get hassled and pushed around by the beach boys but eventually if we stayed out all day like we used to they would go in and we'd get an hour or two all by ourselves. I've had amazing long ride surf sessions at queens, courts and the old secret spot ranch house back in the day with less than half a dozen guys out. The secret is just to park you butt out there all day if you can handle the dehydration but it's "in between" shifts where you end up all by your lonesome with a couple others. Every spots has its shifts.

My pops wasn't a huge fan of Don Ho (he hated the Cazimero style music as well) who was a decade or more younger than him (he called him kid). But he was a huge fan of Alfred Apaka and sad when he passed away early. Allot of the locomoco waikiki musician crowd worked for him in the army and he was always chasing them after them while they were goofing off. Also for years he worked as a bouncer at the FT Derussy NCO Club for extra income and saw allot of the ugly side of waikiki. I grew up listening to Hawaiian music sung and played by folks like The Mills Brothers, Andy Williams, and Martin Denny. Those were the only kinds of records my pops could buy in the PX overseas in Germany and Texas. We had this great tube Grundig Majestic consol to listen to and my pops was heavy into his music (LP) collection which I still have along with my own. When we returned home it was groups like HuiOHana, the Brown and Lim family or the Surfers that he would play.

I liked Dean Martin (That's Amore/Volare) especially during his Martin/Lewis days but my pops was an absolute Bing Crosby/Perry Como/Andy Williams fan. Like Peter, I spent most of my youth running away from my Hawaiian heritage eventhough my family like his has deep roots in the culture/music/hula. It wasn't until I left Hawaii for almost 2 decades in the cold rainy northwest that I realized how much I missed out.

 

[racer1]

If we do open a travel bubble to Japan and this lasts till Winter, wifey agreed to Hokkaido snowboard trip!

 

[Waiehu]

I grew up and lived across Kalakaua Ave from Queens. Barry Kanaiaupuni's Dad, Elmo was our landlord. We surfed Queens for hours, every day and learned our skills from the Waikiki Beachboy's. I was fortunate enough to win the first Queen's contest in 1961 against some very note worthy friends that also grew up in Waikiki and surfing the South Shore. The Sallas Ohana has been on Waikiki Beach teaching surfing for decades. Queen's, has always been one of the premiere spots to surf on Oahu's south shore.

Spent lots of days at Queens and the old Beach Center. Look back on those days with real appreciation. PPK, though we have many contacts in common, ranging from surf related to Claude Hall, I think that the only occasion that I have ever spoken with you was at an old HLSA contest at Queens,(if memory serves, the contest that day was delayed due to no waves). I was hanging with Bobby K and Mark A, waiting for a decision and the fact that you had brought an Ole long board to the contest is what initiated our conversation, as we both have a deep appreciation for any board by Ole. I still have two and hope you have hung onto yours. Bob is still a classic.

 

[racer1]

My cop buddy said HPD is aware of 15 Antifa members who arrived this week, in anticipation of two protests going down today and tomorrow, but he said HPD is more concerned about locals getting violent with them. They have undercovers tailing the members ready to arrest them for breaking quarantine, but the undercovers are seeing locals tailing too! LOL.