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Waikiki During Quarantine

racer1

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HarryLopez said:
Ahhh, da old false crack attack. I learned how to smell those coming, like a survival tactic.
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Hahah, I swear you can sense them coming. Seen it at high school parties in Kailua/Kaneohe all the time. One guy, chest out, talking loud, another guy side slipping through the crowd quietly with a ham fist, find your driver and find whatever chick you were talking to then lets head to the car. LOL.
 
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racer1 said:
Hahah, I swear you can sense them coming. Seen it at high school parties in Kailua/Kaneohe all the time. One guy, chest out, talking loud, another guy side slipping through the crowd quietly with a ham fist, find your driver and find whatever chick you were talking to then lets head to the car. LOL.
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Lol. Yup.

Always knew when it was about to go down.

My favorite was always watching the guys with hot girls who were loud mouths trying to scrap everyone get licked.
 
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I like Cataluna a reall "tita" like Mehau said.."No skayrd"
on the other hand the state is approving a pay raise for all state workers
the problem continues..

Lee Cataluna: Realistic economic recovery will be uncomfortable

If you’ve ever been through major surgery or been with someone who is recovering from surgery, you know that a significant factor in recovery is the mean nurse who makes you get up and walk. The nurse might not actually be mean at all, just serious and professional and focused on the goal of making you well, but when you’re lying there feeling weak and vulnerable, having someone say it’s time to get up and move when you’re worried about busting the surgery staples can feel pretty cruel.

Hawaii is going through a major all-system shock. In order for the state to start to heal, there’s going to have to be some very honest and painful truth-telling and some steps that hurt like hell. At times it’s going to feel like one step forward, two steps back. It certainly has felt that way this last week with the rise in the number of COVID-19 cases. Anybody who says there’s an easy way to do this is either lying or trying to get you to vote for them. At this point nobody is reckless enough to try to sell simple solutions.

Getting better is going to hurt.

Rebuilding the economy is not going to mean building more houses or new retail centers or additional hotels. It’s going to be using what is already there, maybe making something new out of what we already have, and re-scaling many things down to a manageable size and capacity.

Hawaii has to have agriculture to survive. Agriculture has somehow become a dirty word, but it is large-scale farming that often makes use of science to enhance yield. Whatever Hawaii grows should be something pretty close to a staple rather than a niche product that sells only to gourmands and connoisseurs. It has to be something that people in Hawaii will eat or use ourselves so that we can survive on it when the world market is in the tank.

Hawaii has to make something to export. All that is sold now is Hawaii itself, in terms of real estate, vacation rental nights, outdoor experiences and beach access. The supply of Hawaii land is finite, so places like Kakaako are going vertical and selling boxy apartments high above the actual ground.

Hawaii also can’t sustain as many people, both tourists and residents. There may be residents who find that relocating their family to another state helps their career, financial and educational goals better than gutting it out in Hawaii. We can’t cry over an exodus. We have to wish them well, trust they know what they’re doing and promise to send packages of li hing mui. This constant fantasy of bringing expats back home sometimes seems like a bias against those who continue to live here.

And once and for all, government has to get control of the illegal vacation rental market and those transient accommodations that are permitted but embedded in neighborhoods outside areas zoned for commercial or resort use. It cannot be the only sector of the economy where no rules apply. All that tourism should be funneled into hotels, which would help get more local people into jobs.

All of this is scary. Recovery is scary. But not recovering is worse.
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griffinsurfboard said:
With Covid growing on the mainland its possible Hawaii will go thru a "Hard" reset with those who can't survive without the tourist dollar moving to the mainland or elsewhere to survive .
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an obvious fact some here can't yet swallow
but like Cataluna says..

Hawaii also can’t sustain as many people, both tourists and residents. There may be residents who find that relocating their family to another state helps their career, financial and educational goals better than gutting it out in Hawaii. We can’t cry over an exodus. We have to wish them well, trust they know what they’re doing and promise to send packages of li hing mui. This constant fantasy of bringing expats back home sometimes seems like a bias against those who continue to live here.
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But like you already know the bigger problem is the big money politics and union influence here
Providing raises right now to the essential workers who have been at risk even is fine, providing raises to people who have been getting paid sitting on their a** at home the past 3-4 months is going to stink up the place even more than it already is stink with backdoor political deals.

All it will take is one major care home here to go into covid disaster here and that'll be the end of a re-opening. We got close this past two weeks and I have a sense it's coming. A bunch of kupuna dying here en-mass because of the re-opening and careless young essential workers won't be as accepted as on the mainland. You've already seen the carelessness among the young party crowd in your area. Killing yourself is no big thing, killing the kupuna of others here you are related too or work with would be a political and business nightmare. This is a very small highly interconnected place. Let's say 50 kupuna die of a care home exposure here. No big deal on the mainland but over here that would devastate 100's if not 1000's of interconnected calabash/work relationships all pointing the finger back to someone's decision/action.

People keep writing off hawaii.
But that's a western anglican view of the world
island cultures in the middle of no where have to find ways to adapt to survive so they do
as long as people around the world feel a need to come here we'll still be around
wait till the cold miserable winter we never have
maybe not as many people/jobs will remain
but we'll be here in whatever our next incarnation is
 
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oneula said:
an obvious fact some here can't yet swallow
but like Cataluna says..



But like you already know the bigger problem is the big money politics and union influence here
Providing raises right now to the essential workers who have been at risk even is fine, providing raises to people who have been getting paid sitting on their a** at home the past 3-4 months is going to stink up the place even more than it already is stink with backdoor political deals.

All it will take is one major care home here to go into covid disaster here and that'll be the end of a re-opening. We got close this past two weeks and I have a sense it's coming. A bunch of kupuna dying here en-mass because of the re-opening and careless young essential workers won't be as accepted as on the mainland. You've already seen the carelessness among the young party crowd in your area. Killing yourself is no big thing, killing the kupuna of others here you are related too or work with would be a political and business nightmare. This is a very small highly interconnected place. Let's say 50 kupuna die of a care home exposure here. No big deal on the mainland but over here that would devastate 100's if not 1000's of interconnected calabash/work relationships all pointing the finger back to someone's decision/action.

People keep writing off hawaii.
But that's a western anglican view of the world
island cultures in the middle of no where have to find ways to adapt to survive so they do
as long as people around the world feel a need to come here we'll still be around
wait till the cold miserable winter we never have
maybe not as many people/jobs will remain
but we'll be here in whatever our next incarnation is
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Hawaii does not want all these irresponsible Floridians coming there - it would be a disaster .
 
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griffinsurfboard said:
Big spike here in Florida 2,400 new cases yesterday with a steady 1,200 + a day for the last 9 days

Its going to be Real hard to open up to this in the future .

These increases can be avoided by doing your part , obiviuolsy that ain't being done = Idiots
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Trump, your governor, people that laugh at others for wearing masks - in that order.
 
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racer1 said:
New York, New Jersey and Connecticut just issued the same 14 day quarantine today.

Hawaii will just rewrite theirs now.
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Agreed, Hawaii will most likely rewrite or issue a new quarantine order.
Interesting how many people are criticizing and talking stink about United States Attorney Kenji Price of the District of Hawaii. I guess that they are just reading the headlines and do not understand the the lawsuit regarding the issues of the quarantine has been filed by others. I think that the U.S. Justice Department, including Price, are just giving the State of Hawaii a heads up, based on the current writings of the existing quarantine, will not hold up in a judicial setting and requires some tweaks.
Of course, this is the same Kenji Price that these same people think is great when he takes over a criminal case from the State of Hawaii and prosecutes it Federally, as in the Kealohas.
 
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racer1 said:
Hahah, I swear you can sense them coming. Seen it at high school parties in Kailua/Kaneohe all the time. One guy, chest out, talking loud, another guy side slipping through the crowd quietly with a ham fist, find your driver and find whatever chick you were talking to then lets head to the car. LOL.
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