Waikiki During Quarantine

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that stuff is bonkers

I'm interested in the joinery and construction of the skis
 

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Interisland first as a test then
Travel Bubbles that might include Australia and New Zealand
Mainland US sketchy without testing within 72hrs for now.
9th Island vacation returns gonna require quarantine for now unless they improve
Gary Gill's local5 hotel workers whom are getting paid more on unemployment are gonna want employer protections from covid infected tourists before going back. Certain unions rule here..

Hawaii senators support effort for ‘travel bubble’ agreement with Japan

An effort to reopen Hawaii’s tourism economy by forming a pilot “travel-safely bubble” with Japan got a preliminary blessing from state lawmakers today.
Hawaii Executive Collaborative members Paul Yonamine and Duane Kurisu appeared before the Senate Special Committee on COVID-19 today to ask for support to explore reaching a travel agreement with Japan to relax travel restrictions between the two destinations.
The nonprofit Hawaii Executive Collaborative bills itself as “a group of leaders from all sectors committed to driving collective action to address our community’s toughest challenges.”
Yonamine, Central Pacific Financial Corp. chairman and CEO, said an agreement between Japan and Hawaii would likely allow incoming visitors from Japan, who have met certain safety thresholds, to bypass Hawaii’s mandatory 14-day self-quarantine for trans-Pacific passengers.
Yonamine said travel bubble planners are ready to start meeting Monday and have set tentative goal of July 1 for welcoming back Japan, which is Hawai’s top international market.
Last year, Hawaii welcomed 1.6 million visitors from Japan, which supplied 15% of all the visitors to Hawaii. However, only 13 visitors traveled from Japan to Hawaii last month due to COVID-19 fears and tourism lockdowns.
Nearly all trans-Pacific flights to Hawaii were canceled after the state instituted a mandatory 14-day self-quarantine for incoming out-of-state passengers on March 26, which was extended to the interislands on April 1. Both quarantines are currently in effect through June 30.
“Given the significance of Japan tourists to Hawaii and Japan’s low COVID-19 infection and death rates, a travel bubble with Japan could serve as an effective start and pilot in the gradual reopening of tourism,” Yonamine said.
Yonamine told lawmakers that there is a tremendous urgency to restart Hawaii tourism, which despite talk of diversification remains the most promising avenue to economic recovery.

“An ailing economy and high unemployment often are associated with more crime, homelessness and mental health issues all that can change our way of life in the islands and make us less attractive for visitors,” he said. “Competing destinations in Asia and Europe are quickly solidifying hygiene protocols and standards and reopening their markets to tourists — any delay can cause our state to lose market share in tourism.”
Sen. Jarrett Keohokalole (D-Kaneohe, MCBH, Kailua, Heeia, Ahuimanu) said he expects there would be significant public interest in doing due diligence on the travel bubble concept.

“The reality is that the tourism traffic that we get right now is not high-spend Japanese families who are gonna stay in Waikiki. It’s wannabe Instagram influencers from the West Coast who are staying in illegal vacation rentals and blatantly violating the quarantine,” Keohokalole said. “So in lieu of any alternatives, this seems like a reasonable proposition that I think we all would like to facilitate.”
Sen. Donovan Dela Cruz sent a letter to Gov. David Ige on May 26 advocating to create a task force to pursue a travel bubble. In the letter, Dela Cruz pointed out that similar concepts already are moving forward worldwide. China and Korea opened a travel bubble this month for business travelers between Seoul and 10 Chinese regions, including Shanghai, Dela Cruz said.
On May 15, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania created their own travel corridor between the three Baltic States, he said. Australia and New Zealand also are pursuing agreements, Dela Cruz added.
Dela Cruz sent the request at the urging of the Hawaii Executive Collaborative. However, he and the other Senate committee members, urged the group today to abandon the government task force idea so that they didn’t get bogged down in government bureaucracy. Instead, they offered a letter of support and urged the group to form its own plans and then come back to the state for further vetting.
Sen. Donna Kim (D- Kapalama, Alewa, Kalihi Valley, Ft. Shafter, Moanalua Gardens & Valley, portions of Halawa and Aiea) told Yonamine that a task force would be “inefficient” and she’d rather rather see a template from the private side that the Senate committee could push. She said “we aren’t going to get this off the ground,” if state agencies like the Department of Health get involved.
Sen. Kurt Fevella (R- Ewa Beach, Ocean Pointe, Ewa by Gentry, Iroquois Point, portion of Ewa Villages) drew laughter when he said, “If you want to start in July of this year not next year, you need to get it down on paper.”
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Skateparks and dog parks open tomorrow. Parks have been open but no sports until tomorrow maximum of 10 people per court.

Kapolei skatepark remains closed because of park expansion. Gonna get a plaza and lights. We were worried if the pandemic would affect the parks expansion. Glad it didn’t.
 
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Interisland first as a test then
Travel Bubbles that might include Australia and New Zealand
Mainland US sketchy without testing within 72hrs for now.
9th Island vacation returns gonna require quarantine for now unless they improve
Gary Gill's local5 hotel workers whom are getting paid more on unemployment are gonna want employer protections from covid infected tourists before going back. Certain unions rule here..



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Another interesting blog post from Ian Lind. Interesting to see who the major lobbyists listed in the most recent (December 31, 2019) lobbyist disclosure list. Unite Here Local 5, mentioned above, is number 16 on the list.

 
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Interisland first as a test then
Travel Bubbles that might include Australia and New Zealand
Mainland US sketchy without testing within 72hrs for now.
9th Island vacation returns gonna require quarantine for now unless they improve
"Travel Bubble" wherein Hawaii would allow Japanese or OZ or NZ travelers to come without quarantine before other US citizens from parts of the US with similar Covid numbers? I'm thinking that gets a beatdown in court.
 
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What Hawaii needs is not a return to 10 million visitors a year spending USD $50 per day, but 5 million (or less) visitors spending USD $100 per day. Significant reduction in negative visitor impact and equal amount of money spent.
 
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"Travel Bubble" wherein Hawaii would allow Japanese or OZ or NZ travelers to come without quarantine before other US citizens from parts of the US with similar Covid numbers? I'm thinking that gets a beatdown in court.
This..
Given the significance of Japan tourists to Hawaii and Japan’s low COVID-19 infection and death rates, a travel bubble with Japan could serve as an effective start and pilot in the gradual reopening of tourism,” Yonamine said.
Yonamine told lawmakers that there is a tremendous urgency to restart Hawaii tourism, which despite talk of diversification remains the most promising avenue to economic recovery.

Sen. Jarrett Keohokalole (D-Kaneohe, MCBH, Kailua, Heeia, Ahuimanu) said he expects there would be significant public interest in doing due diligence on the travel bubble concept.
“The reality is that the tourism traffic that we get right now is not high-spend Japanese families who are gonna stay in Waikiki. It’s wannabe Instagram influencers from the West Coast who are staying in illegal vacation rentals and blatantly violating the quarantine,” Keohokalole said. “So in lieu of any alternatives, this seems like a reasonable proposition that I think we all would like to facilitate.”
People can come but they are gonna get quarantined for 14 days and policed by the "posse" until the increasing spread gets under control on the mainland
Hawaii doesn't want that spread to move from the mainland to Hawaii and force a second shutdown which they will do if the numbers get to like 50 new cases a day.
They shutdown on 24 a day.

Plus most everyone here wants tougher policing and punishing of violators who flaunt the destruction of everyone's livelihood here.
At this point there's no mercy left among the locals for people who display disregard for the health of this community by a self centered returnng local or visitor. Due to mass unemployment the old "aloha" for that is long gone and replaced with a "posse" mentality

Just look what's happening on the mainland.
When the dam holding back decades of frustration breaks, it breaks
And the whole "it's my right to kill you" argument just ain't gonna fly here anymore when it comes to covid spread
 
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Tourists are funny. Many of us on this bb live in tourist destinations, and our local economies depend on tourism, maybe a lot. So as much as we hate 'em, we need 'em. And to be honest, the majority of tourists aren't bad. They are just enjoying our places and mostly being respectful and staying out of everybody's way the best they can. We're all toursts from time to time, after all.

But some tourists act like entitled assholes. This went on before Corona but now asshole-ish behavior has a new element of danger. No masks, no obeying the rules, acting like they are on vacation from the virus, and so on. Business owners who depend on tourists and who don't enforce safety because they are afraid to alienate their customers add gasoline to the anti-tourist fire. And it's not just the beach areas, it's everywhere. link

IDK if there's any easy solution. Hawaii is kind of lucky, they can control the tourist flow and add some level of social intimidation, to a certain extent.
 
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This..


People can come but they are gonna get quarantined for 14 days and policed by the "posse" until the increasing spread gets under control on the mainland
Hawaii doesn't want that spread to move from the mainland to Hawaii and force a second shutdown which they will do if the numbers get to like 50 new cases a day.
They shutdown on 24 a day.

Plus most everyone here wants tougher policing and punishing of violators who flaunt the destruction of everyone's livelihood here.
At this point there's no mercy left among the locals for people who display disregard for the health of this community by a self centered returnng local or visitor. Due to mass unemployment the old "aloha" for that is long gone and replaced with a "posse" mentality

Just look what's happening on the mainland.
When the dam holding back decades of frustration breaks, it breaks
And the whole "it's my right to kill you" argument just ain't gonna fly here anymore when it comes to covid spread

I understand the economic reasoning behind the initiative by your State Senators. I also understand the desire to not have a raging shitshow of NYC proportions land on your islands. Also understand the desire to improve your quality of life via fewer and better tourists that aren't cheap selfie douchebags.

But, the courts will likely not stand for a policy that allows foreigners to enter without a quarantine while US citizens do have to go through a quarantine. Especially if the US citizens are from areas that have comparable covid numbers to Japan.

I'm guessing there is a way to allow healthy US citizens to travel there and still enforce reasonable standards for conduct while they are there. If it takes a posse mentality to "help" people get a clue in the short run,then so be it.
 

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There are plenty of tests that can be used to end the 14 day quarantine. I've never witnessed a more inept Governor. The press briefings leave you more confused that before. Just dragging ass without a good plan to put people back to work in the tourism industry.
 
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