It is. Monsoon storms, temps right around 100°, 80° nights, high 70s in the mountains
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California, who are the lunatics in charge?
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If you need to live by an ocean to go surfing, CA is a top tier place to live in the USA.
If you don't there's really no reason to live here.
If you're not making a decent income it's woefully shitty.
There are a lot of people of means in the state that don't get that.
There are also a lot of people in the state that have never really traveled and don't understand there's a world outside of CA and think the rest of the country is MAGA. Or think Texas is paradise. It's pretty funny.
My dad and many of his friends were diaspora'd from the Bay Area in the late 70s, when they come back now it's pretty irritating to them to see what's happened to the state. Most say they noticed during return trips in the 90s that things were turning. Most of the current woes they blame on "limousine liberals" and East Coast transplants. Proof they say is the number of transplants you see living in coastal areas vs inland means transplants basically dictate the political situation in CA. I don't know the validity of their viewpoints.
Still there are a ton of other places in the USA that are much worse.
If you don't there's really no reason to live here.
If you're not making a decent income it's woefully shitty.
There are a lot of people of means in the state that don't get that.
There are also a lot of people in the state that have never really traveled and don't understand there's a world outside of CA and think the rest of the country is MAGA. Or think Texas is paradise. It's pretty funny.
My dad and many of his friends were diaspora'd from the Bay Area in the late 70s, when they come back now it's pretty irritating to them to see what's happened to the state. Most say they noticed during return trips in the 90s that things were turning. Most of the current woes they blame on "limousine liberals" and East Coast transplants. Proof they say is the number of transplants you see living in coastal areas vs inland means transplants basically dictate the political situation in CA. I don't know the validity of their viewpoints.
Still there are a ton of other places in the USA that are much worse.
I'm sure he's riddled with regret but can't admit it to himself and especially not the erBB.
Surfing is the only reason to live here?
Whoa.
There are still cheap places to live in California. Even on the coast.
If wage growth wasn't lagging behind, it would have been easier.
I’ve been here 5 decades. It’s more crowded, but so is everywhere. Otherwise it seems business as usual.
CA is becoming like Hawai'i where the kids all leave. Even if you've "made it" here, what are the trade-offs? The ocean is definitely amazing and I've enjoyed it from a young age and now my boys do too. But what are their prospects outside of recreation? This is something about which old people just gaslight you or mock you since everything is run for them.
HSR thoughts. Who would take the train from Bakersfield to Modesto when you can drive it in 2 1/2 hours on hwy 99 ?
Perfect example of California governance in a nutshell. Even if they finish it, it's never going to be "high speed." Meanwhile, the taxpayer (me) spent $100 billion over 20 years. It's just another pork project for a bunch of special interests to steal from.
I have no problems paying taxes for government and infrastructure, but we're getting precious little of that these days. I have a huge problem with government blatantly taking ever-more from the taxpayer and giving nothing in return.
Yes.
It's got the most consistent decent surf in the continental USA.
Otherwise, every single thing CA offers in terms of recreation is available elsewhere in the country.
Personally, climate is mostly irrelevant to me (as long as it's not the tropics - I hate the tropics)
Where are the cheap coastal areas in CA?
He says, from his sailboat, while claiming he isn't white.
This. Was having this conversation with the wife yesterday. Went into an open house right down the street with an extra bed, bath and garage space from what we have now (2/1/1). The premium to trade up in our own hood to something that would allow us to have enough space for 2 kids is around $250-350k. Building up would be a similar cost. Not complaining, it just is what it is.
At this point I don't think it's even worth it, even if it was affordable. I'd rather save myself the $300K liability and rent my current house out for part of the year furnished at $4K/month and live here during the prime months if I want. I'll figure the rest out
There are so many ways to avoid crowds in California, it's not even funny.
If you keep doing the same thing every day, nothing would change. Keep going to the same crowded peak and surf the same surfboard in same conditions and do nothing else will make anyone go crazy.
If you're being curious and open to trying new things and experiences in different places, California has an infinite number of options on offer.
None of that happens if you're a small minded scrooge.
My sailboat is 1/4 of the price of Ifailalot's Jeep.
And I fully acknowledge my white privilege.
You don't.
As an immigrant though, I had zero privileges.
All while the population of California is actually declining, and I guarantee the rate of decline is 3x worse than reported. It's not poors leaving either - it's people with a lot of money. I know several, some with 100s of employees between them.This. Was having this conversation with the wife yesterday. Went into an open house right down the street with an extra bed, bath and garage space from what we have now (2/1/1). The premium to trade up in our own hood to something that would allow us to have enough space for 2 kids is around $250-350k. Building up would be a similar cost. Not complaining, it just is what it is.
At this point I don't think it's even worth it, even if it was affordable. I'd rather save myself the $300K liability and rent my current house out for part of the year furnished at $4K/month and live here during the prime months if I want. I'll figure the rest out
Something really fishy is going on between the Fed printing and the banks buying SFHs.
Between TJ and Bodega Bay, very few. You could've bought a good house in Oceano (close to the beach, 5-10 min to Pismo) for under $400k just a few years ago. Those days are long gone. At this point, maybe Lompoc and Guadalupe, at best
