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Why is acquired immunity being dismissed?
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Ok so maybe we should see a decline in these averages over the next couple of years?
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There was a small drop in death from chronic lower respiratory illnesses in 2020. Like 5k. Maybe we'll see a similar decline in other causes of death?
The bulk of the age cohort was spread out over like 20 years, 700k people as of now, so your straight average would be 35k/year over 20 years? Probably be higher at first and then tail off but even 50k to start spread out over all the cancer/respiratory/heart etc causes of death is going to be a few thousand here, several thousand there.
But maybe surviving Covid has/will exacerbate the comorbidities in the people who died/will die, and there'll be more than a couple year offset? Maybe stroke and heart disease increased in 2020 because people who survived Covid but were going to live a few more years wound up spending weeks immobile on life support (or just less active due to quarantine) and their blood pump was much more feeble? Or Ahlzheimers deaths went up slightly because people had less company/mental stimulation?
I don't know how straightforward the numbers will be in the future.
There could be a cold winter and a shitty flu season where Texas gets hit by another 100 year snowstorm and the ones who can't get to Cancun run out of cowboy boots and hats to burn to stay warm, and one by one they freeze to death, starting with the Covid survivors with weakened cardiopulmonary whatnot?
A Cat 5 could hit God's Waiting Room, aka East Central Florida, and there might be a white Katrina but with even worse swimming and even MOAR alligators and guns. There could be an F5 twister up in The Villages - did you know The Villages is ~2800 people per square mile and therefore a fairly urban area?
2800 people per square mile 80k geezers deep orbiting an F5 vortex is a lot of people to die of the beetus with radar-visible biomass and debris orbiting a hook echo at 260+ mph comorbidities.
What an image, You're an artist dude
Interesting take on the numbers thing, I guess we will see
Anyway, an F5 at the Villages would be Pfizer's worst nightmare, it would be a double whammy for them. They would lose out on possibly the biggest demographic in the country that the needs the boosters and the biggest demographic in the world that craves a 4 hour hard on
Pfizer biochemist explains why natural immunity is better:
Follow the science duude
Maybe we can figure out how to solve the heart disease pandemic as well, ya know, while we are at it.
Those numbers still make zero sense to me
How many Comorbidities does one need before they are considered on the verge of death?
Over/Under 6.4?
Allegedly we had 690,882 heart disease deaths in 2020
Allegedly we had 345,323 Covid related deaths in 2020
Something seems off here
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Yes, you're right, for a short period of time, it seems promising for people with an average of 4.0 comorbidities. It definitely helps them not die for a period of time
But is this science settled? It seems like we are still in the experimental phase to me
Seems like it could be Bill Nye thing, ya know, how we were told he was scientist( I was peak Bill Nye generation, teachers loved to throw Bill Nye on and fuck off for a class) and he ends up just being a guy doing children's infotainment skits
Yayyyy science!!
Go to youtube and type in Here Comes Honey Boo Boo. 6.4 comorbidities the verge of death? This is America in 2021. That's probably the top 30% of healthy people.
It makes zero sense to you because you're starting with the conclusion you want, and all your attempts to arrive there malfunction hilariously in the presence of data.
The life expectancy in this country is in the low to mid 70s. Do you know how many people 50+ have high blood pressure, regularly drink and/or smoke, overweight/obese...
Why do you keep arbitrarily selecting random numbers of comorbidities to try to cram it into the "they would have died anyway" narrative?
The only thing that seems off here is your insistence that there is allegedly some problem with these numbers.
This is getting Bohter-adjacent.
and vaccine immunity does?
We're up to 3 shits now, it will be interesting to see where this all goes