Why is acquired immunity being dismissed?

[Aquaman2]

"Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated, the study found."

"Nevertheless, vaccination remains the safest strategy against COVID-19, according to the report published in U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report."

Prior COVID infection more protective than vaccination during Delta surge -U.S. study

People who had previously been infected with COVID-19 were better protected against the Delta variant than those who were vaccinated alone, suggesting that natural immunity was a more potent shield than vaccines against that variant, California and New York health officials reported on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

 

[hal9000]

"Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated, the study found."

"Nevertheless, vaccination remains the safest strategy against COVID-19, according to the report published in U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report."

Prior COVID infection more protective than vaccination during Delta surge -U.S. study

People who had previously been infected with COVID-19 were better protected against the Delta variant than those who were vaccinated alone, suggesting that natural immunity was a more potent shield than vaccines against that variant, California and New York health officials reported on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

GrapesDad doesn't trouble himself with details

 

[afoaf]

everyone can get reinfected

what are we supposed to consider acquired immunity in relation to?

are people who don't want the vaxx going to go get antibody tests so they can show those instead of their vaccine status to eat at Applebee's?

that seems overly complicated...

 

[grapedrink]

so you proved that nobody is ignoring natural immunity

No, I posted an article that states that immunity from infection is more protective than the vaccines, despite several posters here saying otherwise

 

[grapedrink]

GrapesDad doesn't trouble himself with details

You realize that all of the above, in addition to the title of article, can all be correct together? Why is everyone so binary about everything

 

[PRCD]

I'll just leave this here . . .

Prior COVID infection more protective than vaccination during Delta surge -U.S. study

People who had previously been infected with COVID-19 were better protected against the Delta variant than those who were vaccinated alone, suggesting that natural immunity was a more potent shield than vaccines against that variant, California and New York health officials reported on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

Denying natural immunity is denying the science of vaccines since vaccines train the immune system to mount a response to a virus. Logically, which trains the immmune system better- the S1 subunit of the virus or all surface proteins of the virus from the virus itself? Of course it’s safer to face the virus for the first time with the former rather than get immunity the hard way depending on your age, sex, and health status.

 

[grapedrink]

Denying natural immunity is denying the science of vaccines since vaccines train the immune system to mount a response to a virus. Logically, which trains the immmune system better- the S1 subunit of the virus or all surface proteins of the virus from the virus itself? Of course it’s safer to face the virus for the first time with the former rather than get immunity the hard way depending on your age, sex, and health status.

Agreed. Meanwhile, Fauci just said that 2-4 years old now need a 3rd booster

 

[PRCD]

Agreed. Meanwhile, Fauci just said that 2-4 years old now need a 3rd booster

The Covidians love him. Based on polling, the rest of us recognize him as a narcissistic faker.

If I pulled the stuff he pulls, I’d be fired. We need toget back some accountability in government.

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

Agreed. Meanwhile, Fauci just said that 2-4 years old now need a 3rd booster

Meanwhile the Pfizer CEO says their vaccine doesn’t work on omicron, which now makes up 99.5% of all new cases.

So, what the fuck?

 

[PRCD]

Meanwhile the Pfizer CEO says their vaccine doesn’t work on omicron, which now makes up 99.5% of all new cases.

So, what the fook?

The vaccines work fine against Omicron thanks to our T cells and memory B cells. Bourla is spreading misinformation. Maybe it’s time he was epsteined. Did you know he’s a veterinarian?

 

[grapedrink]

Meanwhile the Pfizer CEO says their vaccine doesn’t work on omicron, which now makes up 99.5% of all new cases.

So, what the fook?

Why does the narrative keep changing and the goalposts keep moving

 

[hammies]

Things I've read about acquireed immunity:

- It lasts longer/is stronger than immunity from vaccines: <insert study that supports this argument here>
- No it's not: <insert study that supports this argument here>

- B- and T-cell immunity > antibody-generated immunity from vaccines: <insert study that supports this argument here>
- Antibody-generated immunity > B- and T-cell immunity: <insert study that supports this argument here>

- Omicron shows that further variants will be milder and Covid will be relegated to the dustbin of history: <insert study that supports this argument here>
- No guarantee that the next variant isn't a huge mass murderer: <insert study that supports this argument here>

- Omicron is just a cold, so get Covid now and you're good to go!
- Herman Cain Award Winner: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60050996

 

[r32]

In the beginning, everyone talked about reaching 'herd immunity' as the main goal, but I've not heard that term mentioned in the last six months.

Is this no longer a thing?

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

Bourla is spreading misinformation. Maybe it’s time he was epsteined. Did you know he’s a veterinarian?

Can he get me some horse dewormer?

 

[GromsDad]

In the beginning, everyone talked about reaching 'herd immunity' as the main goal, but I've not heard that term mentioned in the last six months.

Is this no longer a thing?

No. That for sure is no longer a thing. Its all about political power and control. What upsets the authoritarians the most is seeing people like me living their lives as normal the past few years with no fear of their stupid virus scare campaign.

 

[hal9000]

In the beginning, everyone talked about reaching 'herd immunity' as the main goal, but I've not heard that term mentioned in the last six months.

Is this no longer a thing?

No, I think that's done. Mitigation and management are now the strategy. This thing is on its way to becoming endemic, its here to stay, just like Spanish Flu.

No. That for sure is no longer a thing. Its all about political power and and control. What upsets the authoritarians the most is seeing people like me living their lives as normal the past few years with no fear of their stupid virus scare campaign.

Stupid virus scare campaign?

So I'm guessing you already sent your apology letter to Governor Murphy.

 

[ghost_of_lewis_samuels]

b/c it's just like the vaccine, does not last forever - and everyone isn't tested for it so it's also difficult to measure.

 

[Autoprax]

The problem with people finding reasons why they shouldn't vaccinate is that it biases large portions of the population not to get vaccinated who should.

It seems like all the experts agree that getting vaccinated helps reduce death and hospitalizations.

Not getting the vaccination because you are not in a high risk group might be effective for many individuals but it renders the societal response to the virus less effective.

I notice that many people want reap the benefits of being part of a society without the responsibility.

There is a name for this in nature: It's called "parasitism."

We see expression in the social environment with our covid response.

Way to go Team Human!

 

[GromsDad]

It seems like all the experts agree that getting vaccinated helps reduce death and hospitalizations.

Not getting the vaccination because you are not in a high risk group might be effective for many individuals but it renders the societal response to the virus less effective.

WTF???? Societal response???
At risk people should get vaccinated if they'd like along with those who are at occupational risk. Its up to them. Forced vaccinations, mandates, restrictions..........sorry but fuk that.

 

[Autoprax]

WTF???? Societal response???
At risk people should get vaccinated if they'd like along with those who are at occupational risk. Its up to them. Forced vaccinations, mandates, restrictions..........sorry but fuk that.

Your stupid.

Your response in now addresses what I said.

You live in a fantasy world.

Covid thanks you for your support.