Ignorance can be a form of malice. Anyone who can read can figure out that "Ordem y progresso" goes right-side up.
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The WSL is a disgrace.
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There are letters. They say "Ordem e Progresso".
I still think it was due to ignorance though, but if this can be used to cause intrigue I think it most definitely should
Someone hanging flags at the Surf Ranch is most likely illiterate
The same non chalant people here would have an absolute sh!t fit if it was the American flag 
I think the guy that hung the flag was just honoring Brazil by pulling the first air reverse of the comp.
There is another level to the WSL's shady judging. Next year is the Olympics and the WSL are colluding with the IOC to push through their corruption! IOC are known pedophile money grabbers and we are in their slimey grasp
Top 10 on the WSL qualifies for the Olympics. Watch the scores and believe the Q!
Top 10 on the WSL qualifies for the Olympics. Watch the scores and believe the Q!
My BJJ instructor was there with the 805 brewing guys and he was so pissed about the judging (he’s Brazilian). It was hilarious watching him rant about.
The Brazilian argument that Italo had 3.21 more seconds in the barrel and did 2.43 more turns is so funny.
With the advent of scoring systems like LiveHeats and the ease of webcasting in 2023 is the WSL even necessary? Why don't surf brands and sponsors go it alone? Put up some prize money to attract the talent, get the permits, set the dates and hire some judges. Game on.
Stab Mag, Da Hui and others have done successful non-WSL tour events and webcasts that were entertaining for the viewers and I'm guessing were worthwhile for the sponsors. Is it time for pro surfing to go another direction?
Stab Mag, Da Hui and others have done successful non-WSL tour events and webcasts that were entertaining for the viewers and I'm guessing were worthwhile for the sponsors. Is it time for pro surfing to go another direction?
Nobody's one-off event will replace a tour.
You'll get cool moments, but they'll just be moments.
The tour is the narrative arc that draws us in, as imperfect as it is. The upsets, the errors, all of it is part of the package. And frankly, hosting multiple events also tends to sand things down for a more appropriate overall winner, rather than a single discipline specialist or the product of one bad call. Which is also why I'm not a fan of the "playoff" approach that WSL is using with the Final 5.
The Backdoor Shootout underperforms on every level except the actual surfing.
The Eddie does well, but it's really difficult to replicate and even that struggles to reach its potential.
You can do other cool stuff, but it won't be this.
Can the WSL do better? Of course.
Should they do better? absolutely.
Is it expensive? For sure.
Do most people comment on it without an inkling of what it takes to put on an event, much less a tour? Yup.
There are many salient critiques on the WSL, many that have been voiced for nearly 50 years that did not shift after rebranding. There are many new critiques that can be applied as technology fixes some problems while creating some new ones. But there are some ideas that get bounced around repeatedly that will not, and should not, be given further audience, but they should probably be officially addressed.
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IMHO surfing just does not fit as a mass market mainstream sport no matter how much money is thrown at it. The proverbial round peg/square hole thing.
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Selling a sport by dumbing it down and attempting to eradicate controversy or critique doesn't work.
The NBA did a great job of figuring that out and they've only gotten better because of it.
People want to learn and have things pointed out to them by more knowledgable people, even if it shows an error by the organization (judging, format, condition calls, etc.)
Until they allow for that and lean into it, they'll flounder, which is why the current leadership will have a hard time taking it any further.
In a few years Dirk Ziff will be bored and tired of throwing away his money. At that time yet another new financier, one who is, like Ziff, enamored with surfing's "cool," and like Ziff, confident he can do what no other human has managed to do before him (make the masses care about surfing) will bankroll another version of the world tour.
Some very lucky young rippers will get to make some money staving off the real world and getting paid to surf and travel and score hot chicks. Good on them! We will get to watch them compete and we will bluster and argue about who stayed in the barrel 3.124856328 seconds longer and why they ought to have prevailed. Boards will be made and sold. They will have funny, cool, ironic model names. We will buy them and surf them. Poorly.
And still, no one else will really care about surfing.
As it should be. As it has always been.
Some very lucky young rippers will get to make some money staving off the real world and getting paid to surf and travel and score hot chicks. Good on them! We will get to watch them compete and we will bluster and argue about who stayed in the barrel 3.124856328 seconds longer and why they ought to have prevailed. Boards will be made and sold. They will have funny, cool, ironic model names. We will buy them and surf them. Poorly.
And still, no one else will really care about surfing.
As it should be. As it has always been.
Matt Biolos had a valid point on this. You gotta compare surfing to other "judged" sports such as gymnastics, diving and others like them.
Compared to those sports surfing is doing quite well. You can't compare surfing to widely popular team sports like soccer, basketball or hockey. Tennis and golf are rich people sports. Surfing has world champions born behind trash cans in a litter of seven. Rolex is not gonna trow money behind a trash can. Or maybe they should? Add some beach cool to that big gut and comb-over image they are rolling with.
Compared to those sports surfing is doing quite well. You can't compare surfing to widely popular team sports like soccer, basketball or hockey. Tennis and golf are rich people sports. Surfing has world champions born behind trash cans in a litter of seven. Rolex is not gonna trow money behind a trash can. Or maybe they should? Add some beach cool to that big gut and comb-over image they are rolling with.
No more or less than surfing. You think NONE of the Eastern Euros currently running tennis got slav-squatted by a glue addict in the stairwell of a commieblock in Gypsygrad?
You think you can afford La Jolla, Palos Verdes, Malibu, Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz, Montauk, Bondi or Byron?
Apple already sponsors the WSL and the partnership sucked according to BitchGossip.
I don't think luxury timepieces have a brand/image problem that they need to solve by paying some illiterate pygmies.
By rich people sports I mean they cater to a more well off audience than surfing. Illiterate pygmy!No more or less than surfing. You think NONE of the Eastern Euros currently running tennis got slav-squatted by a glue addict in the stairwell of a commieblock in Gypsygrad?
You think you can afford La Jolla, Palos Verdes, Malibu, Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz, Montauk, Bondi or Byron?
Apple already sponsors the WSL and the partnership sucked according to BitchGossip.
I don't think luxury timepieces have a brand/image problem that they need to solve by paying some illiterate pygmies.
I understood it, you English-as-a-second-language, Swede-who-found-oil, Beverly Hillbilly fucking surrender monkey.
Not sure if you've noticed, but the average erBBer spends an African nation's GDP on surfboards each year.
Except there's some third world peasant who, when not riding a surftech and extolling its virtues, shapes his own boards made out of foam that was being used as a maternity ward in a favela.
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See the "mental health thread" for some insight on the surfing population
Pretty sure he is from the social democratic paradise that is Norway who fought a vicious war of resistance vs Germany unlike the pussy swedes, rest of post spot on.