The Jordan Peterson Thread

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Point-blank, a shitload of people disagree with a shitload of other people with respect to gender pronouns, trans people, and bigotry. But religious bigotry, when religion is at least as much a choice as gender identity, is totally considered a thing.

Purposely throwing out a sir/ma'am to troll someone is not impartial. At all.
Sure, but that does not make you alt or far right automatically.
 
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plasticbertrand

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Tweets are notoriously one-sided, responsive, and devoid of context.
I'm sure we could both produce tweets from both sides that don't look good.
If bigotry is the intolerance of those who hold different opinions than you - look no further than today's headlines.
Well yeah, a person typing their thoughts in a tweet is 'one-sided'.

As for context, seriously? :roflmao:

In what context is okay to be homophobic?

Bigotry is not a "different opinion", it should not be in the realm of civil discourse at all.

Well, it is a "different opinion" but no person with an ounce of ethos would take it into consideration in a discussion about anything.
 
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I agree with Hatteras Glass about Twitter in general. But.

Ben Shapiro's collection of tweets should be in a pamphlet titled "How to be an insufferably strident Orthodox-adjacent Zionist who hates Arabs and modern Black America without calling anyone a (sand) ****er"

That he wet himself about the Supreme Court not agreeing with him - like anyone is even asking him to work with gay-married people in the context of their legal union in the course of a day's blabbing at DailyWire - is completely hilarious coming from someone who fancies themselves a rule of law constitutional conservative.
 
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It comes from, he is not respected by his peers, so he packages himself as alternative and goes to Youtube.

Another suggestion for what? What is your interest? Academic study is not about the researcher but about the work. You shouldn't ask for and wait for people to tell you what you should do, and then be angry.

Kids:violin:, weird generation.
Dude he's got an h-index of 54. Anything over 20 is very solid. This does not measure popular book sales, it measures peer-reviewed citations. Why you gotta make stuff up?
 

HatterasGlass

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As for Jordan Peterson, the clinical psychologist with 3 million followers on YouTube, an "intelectual" who rants about the "Marxist lie" of white privilege and how millennials need to drop the idea of "social justice." His transphobic, sexist and racist rants, made him become a celebrity to (mostly) white and straight, right leaning men like him.
My God - you're scared of everything.

There is nothing more racist than targeting an ethnic group with a collective crime, regardless of innocence or guilt.
 

HatterasGlass

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I agree with Hatteras Glass about Twitter in general. But.

Ben Shapiro's collection of tweets should be in a pamphlet titled "How to be an insufferably strident Orthodox-adjacent Zionist who hates Arabs and modern Black America without calling anyone a (sand) ****er"

That he wet himself about the Supreme Court not agreeing with him - like anyone is even asking him to work with gay-married people in the context of their legal union in the course of a day's blabbing at DailyWire - is completely hilarious coming from someone who fancies themselves a rule of law constitutional conservative.
We are in agreement.
I like where Ben comes from and believe me, love to see him troll people - but he got sucked into it too deep.

I would, however, like to see the tweets that either begot - or followed - those.
 

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So why are we on page three of a thread discussing a guy who's basically repackaging and selling you fortune cookies without the cookie? Are you on a diet?
That's your take on the guy.
If your history on the erBB has shown us anything - its that your take on every topic except for a homeless guy humping your doormat is suspect - at best.
 
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As for Jordan Peterson, the clinical psychologist with 3 million followers on YouTube, an "intelectual" who rants about the "Marxist lie" of white privilege and how millennials need to drop the idea of "social justice." His transphobic, sexist and racist rants, made him become a celebrity to (mostly) white and straight, right leaning men like him.
White privilege is Peggy McIntosh's rich old honky lady pipe dream and all the mean spirited dum dums in HR use it as a billy club.
 

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That he wet himself about the Supreme Court not agreeing with him - like anyone is even asking him to work with gay-married people in the context of their legal union in the course of a day's blabbing at DailyWire - is completely hilarious coming from someone who fancies themselves a rule of law constitutional conservative.
That sums up this entire discussion.

The libertarian version of liberty for all, consists entirely of restricting other people's liberties.

I guess nobody told Shapiro that he doesn't have to marry a dude or suck dick, or use pronouns to be respectful or listen to rap or like black people.

Same with Peterson's transphobia, sexism and Marxist white privilege.

Or saying that having to wear a mask is "government tyranny".

Talking about SJW feelings and pettiness :foreheadslap:
 
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HatterasGlass

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Well yeah, a person typing their thoughts in a tweet is 'one-sided'.

As for context, seriously? :roflmao:

In what context is okay to be homophobic?

Bigotry is not a "different opinion", it should not be in the realm of civil discourse at all.

Well, it is a "different opinion" but no person with an ounce of ethos would take it into consideration in a discussion about anything.
Here is a picture of what I am sayi. I have broken all my crayons on this thread today:
And nobody can tell me that I'm not funny.

Eat your heart @afoaf !

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HatterasGlass

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That sums up this entire discussion.

The libertarian version of liberty for all, consists entirely of restricting other people's liberties.

I guess nobody told Shapiro that he doesn't have to marry a dude or suck dick, or use pronouns to be respectful or listen to rap or like black people.

Same with Peterson's transphobia, sexism and Marxist white privilege.


You are clearly the elder statesman around here, Clark.
 

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Great point, Kento.
Now this is why I started this thread.
Bravo.
I hate watching people just sit there and talk on TV/videos (and yes, Kentucky Fried Movie put me into almost eternal sleep when I finally watched it [Catholic Schoolgirls in Trouble was good though]) and would much rather read as it is just faster.

Now, that being said, the rules for life are pretty basic. #3 edges towards having friends so you can use them. #5: That would be tough; I'll keep them away from SUPs. #6: To a degree. But, yeah, a former boss who complained about me going on internet (despite me getting all of work done easily) probably shouldn't have done so considering I knew he was going on massive amounts of porn, including kiddie and gay surfer; I copied the server history onto a disk as leverage on that one. #7: yeah, except for work. #8 I agree with very much; not many seem to these days, though. #11, yeah, that went bad in the movie Kids. #12, pet a feral cat? Screw that. If cracking one off won't get hair on your palms, that will.

Overall, those virtues are relatively simplistic. This child of the 80s says you could do better just by beating Ultima IV. More cerebral than any youtube video, that's for sure.

Suffering as part of the being? Ha! Caught enough inside by enough seemingly endless sets, paddling for an hour before either finally making it out the back or just giving up after getting so close and then having an 8' wave detonate in front of me, knowing there are at least 20 behind it. And this was at the spot I refer to as OB Jr. :drowning: Of course, after all that, I'd then take the 1st or 2nd wave of the set, cruise over the back, and then think, oh right, there were waves behind this one. :roflmao: But yeah, beating a retreat when defeated in the water is the exact opposite of suicide.


Bottom line: You can learn far more about life and the cruelty of the world from surfing (good waves, not something like Linda Mar or Doheny) than a pundit.
 

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he can be interesting but gets redundant and stale quick.

Peterson seems to have helped individuals with some severe confidence issues which is good.

none of his “rules” are groundbreaking so I’m not exactly losing my mind over what an intellectual he is. And I agree #5 is vomit inducing And ironic in the context of you g minds developing to be critical thinkers and independent.

some of the stuff he does say is pretty cringy. He has his own Puritan ideals of how the world should be that can be just as bad as anyone.