I’ve had the flat and stock Rusty twin. Both great boards but the flat deck has a much wider nose and works better in smaller surf.
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Rusty - Shiv, Hatchet, 419Fish
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My flat deck twin works good in small stuff but I think due to the longer dims (6'3" x 19.8) it definitely feels best once the waves open up a little. I think stubbier dims would probably make it a bit more fun at the low end but I got mine to be kind of a step up to transition to from the Banjo Fish and for that it works great. Mostly been riding the Captain Fin Christenson twins which I like in most boards so far.
Personally not at all. The thin rails through the back end and narrow-ish tail block have plenty of hold. That's just me though, I know plenty of guys dig the twin+trailer setup in different boards but I always seem to just prefer strait twins. If I want a center fin I'll ride a thruster.
Not a Rusty, but I got a center box on my Stamps Banjo and have only used it sparingly. If I were to redo it, I would leave the box off. On days that it's big enough that the stabilizer is temping, I generally end up picking another board.
The difficulty with having a trailer box with the intention of optionally using it is that the twin+trailer likes different front fin positions from the pure twin fin. For say a HPSB type tail width (not wide fish width) front fin trailing edges at the original MR style position of 10 1/2" will work well with twin + trailer. For a pure twin the MR style position will be too squirrely for most peoples tastes (although twin fins are more tolerant to placement differences provided one is prepared to adjust back foot position). So most people will be much happier on a pure twin set at more modern positions of say 8" - Greg knows all about that - he was part of the history of the modern placement.
I haven't actually tried a trailer added to modern placement, but its not getting enthusiastic reviews on this thread and I guess it isn't going to do a great deal for an already more drivey modern placement. I am however familiar MR style twin+trailer setup and I would describe it as somewhere in between a twin and thruster. It doesn't have that drifting feeling which occurs with pure twin although the small trailer will readily break free if tightly turned, treated more gently in turns it will have a more thruster like drive.
However if Rusty is good to work with then based on looking at the various twin fin offerings and reading posts from Duffy about his experience with keels and placement I guess that a compromise convertible setup could be obtained if one is prepared to buy a set of keels, plus a set of the more upright MR twins, plus a trailer.
The keels from FCS and Futures (maybe other manufacturers too) have the trailing edge back from the shapers dot (I don't know how much, because never owned any keels). So a shapers dot of say 10 1/2" would have the keel trailing edge closer to the more modern rear placement. One could then swap out keels for MR style twins to obtain something like 10" up (even the MR twins have the trailing edge rear of the shapers dot - in FCS at least) and then place the trailer in.
Potential for this sort of custom order going wrong would be very high! If I was to do it I would buy all the fins first, place them in boxes of a thruster where the shapers dot is clearly visible and known to be accurate with an existing set of thruster fins and figure out exactly where I want the shapers dot and request that. There would also be a trailing edge to rail edge measurement consideration as the further the trailing edge goes back from the shapers dot, the closer it gets to the rail. The result may be a bit of a compromise, but would be very instructive for those wishing to do it and compare rides.
i asked Rusty about having my board as a twin/trailer set up with fins at 10 1/2 or so. As I recall, Rusty said it would be better to have a pure twin with the fins pulled further back. Although he was willing to install a trailer box.
Just adding my two cents, the Twin Fin is a blast! Love the new feel/freedom that it provides and I just added the Futures AMK Keel Fin recently, starting riding it with the Naked Viking Kraken, AMKs definitely an improvement.
Heading out in a few hours: light offshore and ~4'-5' water temp a balmy 41...cheers
Heading out in a few hours: light offshore and ~4'-5' water temp a balmy 41...cheers
Emailed Rusty with a rambling question about Dims. Didn't even expect a response quickly.
Emailed me back with some tweaks they thought would work and a full 3d mock up of the board.
holy moly these guys are on it right now. This is better communication than anyone so far.
Emailed me back with some tweaks they thought would work and a full 3d mock up of the board.
holy moly these guys are on it right now. This is better communication than anyone so far.
New Hampshire, get to Gooch’s a few times a year.
My surf life started in sunny, warm Florida back in 1980. After 20 years here I finally consider myself a cold water surfer. All my old surf buds think I’m nuts.
-3 hours today I think my feet are finally warm.
Where are you at now?
I'm in Washington now. Went to college in southern Maine, bought my first board at Cinnamon Rainbows! Spent many happy winter days at the Wall and Wells.
A great surf shop, I know the owner a bit, he was able to get to the Surf Ranch, lucky bastard!
Cropper is an all around good dude.
Have everybody’s hatchets arrived yet? I put in an order for an ‘84 during the xtr sale
Have everybody’s hatchets arrived yet? I put in an order for an ‘84 during the xtr sale
Sorry for this but it appears that this has become a general Rusty threa. Jut picked up this big girl today. I guess I can't be a pvssy no more.
Nothing on my Hatchet yet either and agree the shaping room must be buried...that Blackbird looks sweet!
