Bonhoffer calls that "cheap grace." Paul obliterates the concept in Romans.I guess in some cases you're right.
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Bonhoffer calls that "cheap grace." Paul obliterates the concept in Romans.I guess in some cases you're right.
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Can you give counter examples of when it's not?
Who believes in god but doesn't want to?
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Every real believer.
The Bible states that people are spiritually dead. Faith is a gift from God, not a choice. Go look up the doctrine of "total depravity." The idea that people "desire" God is not Christian. The Bible doesn't teach that.
Psalm 42
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Can you give counter examples of when it's not?
Who believes in god but doesn't want to?
[/QUOTE]
Every real believer.
The Bible states that people are spiritually dead. Faith is a gift from God, not a choice. Go look up the doctrine of "total depravity." The idea that people "desire" God is not Christian. The Bible doesn't teach that.
Don't quit your day jobSo.......funny or not?
Well, since MANY Christians said AIDS was God's punishment for the Gays, Covid is definitely punishment for voting for tRump.This thread took an interesting turn. So is this corona virus a gift or punishment from god?
Thank-you for bringing us your version of reality. You've done your job most excellently. Go take some time to yourself and pat yourself on the back for saving us all from our realitySure....these are "alternative to the main stream" views....but as I always say....just like being on a jury....ya need to examine all the evidence and consider both sides...
I'm not saying the Bible teaches that.The Bible states that people are spiritually dead. Faith is a gift from God, not a choice. Go look up the doctrine of "total depravity." The idea that people "desire" God is not Christian. The Bible doesn't teach that.[/ICODE]
If you let being banned run you off, I say, "good riddance."Careful not to be insulting. If you caught the new sticky from groundswell, we're all supposed to be nice don't catch a ban! Lord knows how many of us have been run off for good by being banned.
Thank-you for bringing us your version of reality. You've done your job most excellently. Go take some time to yourself and pat yourself on the back for saving us all from our reality
You refuse to acknowledge that the other poster''s issue with you quantitative, rather than qualitative.This guy has an interesting take on the coming food shortage....and contrasts it with similar historic events....
And this gal puts the whole thing in perspective....
Sure....these are "alternative to the main stream" views....but as I always say....just like being on a jury....ya need to examine all the evidence and consider both sides...
And....this one is specifically for Everysurfer....and everyone else who thinks I should not be posting alternative views here....some thoughts on the subject.....
People will be judged. The law came so the Lord could judge the world. The self is eternal. It either integrates with Christ...or is helplessly subjected to a flame that requires no fuel outside of the fury of Almighty God forever and ever and ever.I'm not saying the Bible teaches that.
I"m saying people want to believe because they are afraid of self dissolution.
Ever heard of Pascal's wager?
They are making a bet out of fear of being wrong.
I've had guys say, What if you are wrong?
My response is, "Are you so unsure of your ability to think using reason that you are going to bet on magical thinking?"
The answer is yes.
Why? fear of self dissolution.
It's not the soul we afraid of dying.
It's the self.
When you die, the self goes bye bye.
eekPeople will be judged. The law came so the Lord could judge the world. The self is eternal. It either integrates with Christ...or is helplessly subjected to a flame that requires no fuel outside of the fury of Almighty God forever and ever and ever.
The decisions you make now carry the weight of eternity in them. From our perspective we have power to direct our destiny, but God makes the final choice. There is only one truly free will.
People will be judged. The law came so the Lord could judge the world. The self is eternal. It either integrates with Christ...or is helplessly subjected to a flame that requires no fuel outside of the fury of Almighty God forever and ever and ever.
The decisions you make now carry the weight of eternity in them. From our perspective we have power to direct our destiny, but God makes the final choice. There is only one truly free will.
I am sorry that your "faith" is in time. My "faith" is in the God of the Bible. I look at seasons, natural laws, language, physic, etc. and I see intended purpose that can only come forth from an intelligent mind. You see products of "time."
"Time" is the atheists God. It resolves the mystery for them.
Where did trees come from?
"TIME"
Where did language evolve from in humans?
"TIME
Why do we have weather cycles?
"TIME"
Why all the straw men?People will be judged. The law came so the Lord could judge the world. The self is eternal. It either integrates with Christ...or is helplessly subjected to a flame that requires no fuel outside of the fury of Almighty God forever and ever and ever.
The decisions you make now carry the weight of eternity in them. From our perspective we have power to direct our destiny, but God makes the final choice. There is only one truly free will.
I am sorry that your "faith" is in time. My "faith" is in the God of the Bible. I look at seasons, language, physics, ecosystems, etc. and I see intended purpose that can only come forth from an intelligent mind. You see products of "time."
"Time" is the atheists God. It resolves the mystery for them.
Where did trees come from?
"TIME"
Where did language evolve from in humans?
"TIME
Why do we have weather cycles?
"TIME"
TIME pretty much is abracadabra!
This guy understands life.Why all the straw men?
My god is pussy.