Obstruction of Congress

Autoprax

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Well another defense is that he never actually tried to bribe the Uke Prez. Because, ya know, he didn’t.

that’s why “bribery” ”QPQ” and now “abuse of power” have been dropped.

replaced by “obstruction”.
Well, lets try to break this down:

Do you believe that he withheld aid and a meeting making it conditional on V's announcing an investigation of trump?
 

Duffy LaCoronilla

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Well, lets try to break this down:

Do you believe that he withheld aid and a meeting making it conditional on V's announcing an investigation of trump?
He did not. The aid was given, there was no announcement and they had a meeting.
 

Ifallalot

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It's ironic that to avoid cognitive dissonance, you responded the way you did. :poop:
I’m done with the whole “if you disagree with me you’re dumb” line of argument. The whole cognitive dissonance track is simply a gussied up version of that

it’s cognitive dissonance to not realize that’s what’s happening here
 

Duffy LaCoronilla

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You don’t agree with impeachment? Blackmailing a foreign country to interfere in our election process isn’t enough? Haha Then what is? What does a president have to do to warrant impeachment in your view? Give an example.
Lying about “weapons of mass destruction“ to get us into a war in a foreign country, a war that caused death and injury to millions of people and further destabilized an entire region of the world.
 

doubleup

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More copy-paste nonsense that I've already seen

Go back to Russia, bot
Wrong, but you don't appear to care much about getting anything right.
Exhibiting some classic simian characteristics there, friend.
 

Autoprax

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I’m done with the whole “if you disagree with me you’re dumb” line of argument. The whole cognitive dissonance track is simply a gussied up version of that

it’s cognitive dissonance to not realize that’s what’s happening here
Your line of thinking precludes the idea that you and some of the more willfully stupid posters could be wrong.

Which is silly.
 

Ifallalot

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Your line of thinking precludes the idea that you and some of the more willfully stupid posters could be wrong.

Which is silly.
I've never denied the possibility of being wrong, and when I have been wrong, I have admitted it.

Your line of thinking suggests that only your opinions and the opinions your share with certain others are correct
 

Autoprax

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I've never denied the possibility of being wrong, and when I have been wrong, I have admitted it.

Your line of thinking suggests that only your opinions and the opinions your share with certain others are correct
You got that from my referencing of motivated reasoning?

Just because I accuse people of motivated reasoning it doesn't follow that the person is NOT using motivated reasoning.

Gross dummy is the king of it.

A text book case.
 

Phi1

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Well another defense is that he never actually tried to bribe the Uke Prez. Because, ya know, he didn’t.

that’s why “bribery” ”QPQ” and now “abuse of power” have been dropped.

replaced by “obstruction”.
Sure, maybe dems were just changing their mind on what to "pin on him".

Or maybe their view of the actions evolved as more information came out, more people came forward, more people refused to testify and the timeline became more clear.

There are cases at SCOTUS that will either confirm or poke holes in the immunity defense.

Maybe the 12 people with more direct knowledge will totally exonerate the President. Just like the Mueller report.