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It's the nature of the beast.As stupid as pro skaters are, they are geniuses compared to surfers.
I find it a bit hilarious to lash out against capitalism, my guess would be that they would also like to make a profit af some point.
Damn man - that was such an insightful statement.It's the nature of the beast.
1) In order to be a successful pro skateboarder you have to have a good work ethic. Guys like Eric Koston, Josh Kalis, and Jamie Thomas all had/have good work ethics, this is why the remained successful for so long. It can be difficult to have a good work ethic and be a surfer.
2) Skateboarding is a sink or swim business. There is no brobrah culture.
3) The streets are always there. The life of a surfer depends on waves. You don't need to make life sacrifices to keep skateboarding and you can still fulfill your human potential. Surfing on the other hand is more akin to being a drug addict, and life sacrifices are usually made to keep surfing.
Skateboarding has it all. Bigger, broader talent pool from all over the world. Everything from bro-brahs to effeminate art-school types to inner city kids. Part of its appeal I think.Not to disagree with anything Casa said- but is there really no bro-brah culture in skateboarding?
I thought the whole thing was rife with collabs and all that modern, urban shitt- basically everyone pissing in each other's pockets.
Not really a bro-brah scene.Not to disagree with anything Casa said- but is there really no bro-brah culture in skateboarding?
I thought the whole thing was rife with collabs and all that modern, urban shitt- basically everyone pissing in each other's pockets.
It's on the downslide.Is it still huge?
Kinda felt to me like it had lost it's cool and become mainstream/milqetoast with all the 13 old girls in the Olympics.
What brand of significance is owned by a non-skater? Skateboarding has a shitload of gatekeepers. Diverse, yes. But very closed off to outsiders at its core.Not really a bro-brah scene.
Surfing involves a struggle over limited resources and that shapes the culture and promotes bro-brahism.
The skate industry itself is just different. It is/was fairly common to have non-skaters owning companies, skateshops, and skateparks.
With few exceptions, if a rider is not doing their job they're getting dumped quick. And there's much less hesitancy for companies to poach team riders.
There are trends but in general the culture is more welcoming to individualism because style and creativity matter heavily and people come from a variety of backgrounds.
And while the industry is centered in Southern California many skate pros come from elsewhere. There isn't the whole we-know-each-other-from-NSSA thing. People often move in and out of the skate scene fast, whereas surfers tend to hang around for decades.
Also there is skateboarding everywhere, unlike surfing which is centered at different points in coastal areas.
So it makes it difficult for bro-brah culture to form.
It's on the downslide.
strike missions are when you’re sitting outside at noobs surfing with your friends and you see 10 guys with wetsuits like the one above walking your way along the tide line.
Also beachbreaks. And reefs.Surfing which is centered at different points in coastal areas.
Every major skate shoe brand? Or am I misunderstanding the premise? Still took Nike two tries to finally get their foot in the door though, so your point about being closed off to outsiders at its core is still fairly accurate.What brand of significance is owned by a non-skater? Skateboarding has a shitload of gatekeepers. Diverse, yes. But very closed off to outsiders at its core.
Jamie Thomas has it figured out for sure! That guy seems like he knows what he's doing when it comes to starting a brand, marketing a brand, and riding for it. And he still rips for being in his 50's!It is interesting to compare this dynamic to what you see in skating. A lot of skaters that are sponsored by the big shoe companies, take their money and use it to start smaller personal projects, and make brands to put their homies on. Seems like they've got it figured out and that one can strike a healthy balance riding for a company like Nike but making your own board brand or zine type thing.
Plenty of woodshops are not skater owned. Perhaps even the majority. Same with wheels, hardware, and some grip.What brand of significance is owned by a non-skater? Skateboarding has a shitload of gatekeepers. Diverse, yes. But very closed off to outsiders at its core.