Can you tell the diference when your riding them? im shaping a new board and i think i wanna try the rounded, but i wanna get some input before i go and do it. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Heavily rounded squash, opposed to squareish squash.
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Sure, all else being indentical, coffee can rounds can be very smooth while allowing for full on laydown spring out bottom turns, while a squash might wiggle the tail a bit, delay, then snap right into the turn.
But anything that smooths out your surfing is NOT necessarily good, as some of us are too smooth, not radical enough, while others are herky jerks trying to pull 3 moves per second.
So...depends what you need!
But anything that smooths out your surfing is NOT necessarily good, as some of us are too smooth, not radical enough, while others are herky jerks trying to pull 3 moves per second.
So...depends what you need!
I need both! Some waves, I suffer from walkabout, and glide/cruise blank brained in a daze.
Sometimes, I know exactly what the wave is gonna do, and exactly how I plan to attack it, with complex curves, snaps, and gravity defying moves (yeah, I WISH).
Funny thing, it could be on consecutive waves!
Sometimes, I know exactly what the wave is gonna do, and exactly how I plan to attack it, with complex curves, snaps, and gravity defying moves (yeah, I WISH).
Funny thing, it could be on consecutive waves!
i havent been surfing as long as most people, so i need that little added snap in my turns / cutbacks.
Been surfing since '66, and today, after 4 hours surfing tiny waves with 4 girls (OK, women), the last hour was the lead head dig front rail barely make the wave out of balance struggle it was back in '66. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I haven't surfed in 3 weeks, so I go out in long paddle, tide drift, inconsistent outside waves, from 11:45 to 4PM <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Bo' has never been so uncrowded.
I haven't surfed in 3 weeks, so I go out in long paddle, tide drift, inconsistent outside waves, from 11:45 to 4PM <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Bo' has never been so uncrowded.
quick question. How does a pro like AI who weighs 175 or so, ride a 2 inch thick board in small waves. I weigh 1-5 pounds more then he does, same height and i would just sink that think like nothing. I think i need 2 3/8 or 2 1/2 just to float me in decent surf. is it just my inexperience? or whats my problem. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cussing.gif" alt="" />
donald,
a striahgt square tail rides liek *****. they dont turn very well. dont release at all.
thats why the squash tail is rounded. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
as for pros riding small boards...im gonna say its because there pros.
then again i weigh 155 and got away with riding a 5'6" x 17 3/4 x 2 last month <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. it was definatley a battle though
a striahgt square tail rides liek *****. they dont turn very well. dont release at all.
thats why the squash tail is rounded. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
as for pros riding small boards...im gonna say its because there pros.
then again i weigh 155 and got away with riding a 5'6" x 17 3/4 x 2 last month <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. it was definatley a battle though
Im just kinda weird, i have always been fascinated with things that i cant do in the moment. Especially with something i love (surfing). Something in my head just clicks, and i wonder ... If i weigh the same as AI, i have a good build, similar to his, i am the same height, why cant i ride the same board as him and rip the same way. Its just experience, but riding a 2.5 while pros ride a 2 - 2 1/4 just seems like im not surfing to my potential, for whatever weird, un comprehensible reason.
In a word: Yes.
It's also your lack of incredible skill and natural ability.
And mine too.
And the same for 95% of the world's surfers.
IMHO, the sooner you look away from the pros as examples for the right boards to ride, the more fun you'll have. It's all about matching the board to the type of waves you surf, your ability, your style, and what you consider to be fun.
Oh yeah: I favor rounded tails - heavily rounded squash (aka: Thumbtails) or true roundtails. I like a very neutral handling board, and I'll trade that tiny bit more dynamic handling of a square or swallow tail for predictability in critical situations like late drops or steep sections.
... anyways, after that stupidness. What kinda tail do you think i should go with? for snappy turns with good transitions. Im not sure exactly what to do, but i was thinking something about 5 inches wide and really rouded, just because i like alot of volume under my back foot.
btw, i have never really had trouble with natural ability when it comes to anything involving water, or sports in general. So thats another reason i obsess about sports especially when im not anywhere near the skill level i hope to achive.
For sure you can RIDE a 2" thick board.
Paddling and snaking waves in a crowd, with side current, backwash, some wind, might be a little bit of a problem.
Sitting nipples 2" underwater can be gotten used to, with time and repeated surfing daze.
Basically, you do a modified swim out to the surf, clog the impact zone, and do late takeoffs.
Since those chips can duck 7' of whitewater, you don't worry about getting caught inside by the sets.
I hear RickyCarmichael can ride a Honda 450 pretty well, at his 5'7" and 140 lbs. Most guys would choose to ride a 250, or even a 125, at his size.
At the same sizing, RogerFederer hits a tennis ball OK...can you?
Paddling and snaking waves in a crowd, with side current, backwash, some wind, might be a little bit of a problem.
Sitting nipples 2" underwater can be gotten used to, with time and repeated surfing daze.
Basically, you do a modified swim out to the surf, clog the impact zone, and do late takeoffs.
Since those chips can duck 7' of whitewater, you don't worry about getting caught inside by the sets.
I hear RickyCarmichael can ride a Honda 450 pretty well, at his 5'7" and 140 lbs. Most guys would choose to ride a 250, or even a 125, at his size.
At the same sizing, RogerFederer hits a tennis ball OK...can you?
I dont understand exactly what your saying, be a little more straight forward, sorry for expressing my the way i think, and being annoying.
OH, and im going to talk to my shaper and discuss more 1 on 1 exactly what he thinks i should be riding, and i think that will be a little more helpful. But please continue to respond to my bad questions.
OH, and im going to talk to my shaper and discuss more 1 on 1 exactly what he thinks i should be riding, and i think that will be a little more helpful. But please continue to respond to my bad questions.
try surfing 6 hours everyday for a decade on an island in the middle of the pacific with world class waves. it makes me wonder -- does 1/2" really make a big difference in ones surfing? maybe ill make my next board thin. completely flat deck with very little rocker? very possible.
Odd are your shaper may tell you not to sweat the tail outline so much. Rocker, thickness, rail countours, foil, etc., are ultimately more important to the board's handling and your happiness with it. The difference between a squared squash, rounded squash, and roundtail arent gonna be as dramatic as many other elements that are more subtle in appearance
ya i know, its not understandable, and it dosent make sense.
Im just gonna talk to the shaper that helps me and ask him what he thinks.
Im just gonna talk to the shaper that helps me and ask him what he thinks.
Loosely put, it's the way the thickness is carried throughout the board.
2 boards might both measure 2.5" at the thickest point, but one could have much less overall volume if it's got thinner rails, tail, and nose.