the guy is cuffed on the ground and the cop is just casually kneeling on his neck
what could possibly be in the before video to justify that?
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“I can’t breathe” 2.0
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what could possibly be in the before video to justify that?
Again, I never said otherwise. Although you are conveniently ignoring the fact that people often say "I can't breathe" as a simple way of saying that they are having trouble breathing. When your airway is constricted, it's a lot easier to say "I can't breathe" instead of "I am having trouble breathing, would you mind easing up on my trachea please".
Exactly, which most of the public does not have. Therefore they are more likely to panic and make the situation worse, along with saying "I can't breathe" to get their point across.
Sure, however they should also take that person seriously when if they say "I can't breathe", because it can lead to other issues. Like death.
You’re jumping to a lot of conclusions about what I said that I haven’t actually said.
Can you quote where I said that this was ok?
You argued that he could breath because he made a sound. I'm pointing out that people who could still breath can still die from impaired breathing. Particularly if it's for an extended period of time. Say 7 min with a 190lb cop kneeling on the back ones neck
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That was my first thought, excellent way to compress the carotid, I'd love to see the training the police received for this, what a senseless death
I wonder what the autopsy will show for cause of death
That would be a blood choke.
That's going to be the key. He was allegedly under the influence. So that's another possible cause/contributor.
The cop could have moved the knee to the guys back. I don't know how hard he had been resisting, but at that point it looked like most of the fight was out of him. IMO, he was being stubborn. With the crowd hammering on him, it would have been an admission of guilt to move his knee. In his eyes. Poor choice on his part.
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which, if applied long enough, can lead to difficulty living. I'm thinking the breathing thing is a red herring, but obviously don't know
not saying that's what killed the man, but it seems like a very poorly thought out protocol
Semantics. I just threw out a number that seemed appropriate. Go let a 145lb twink kneel on the back of your neck for 7 min and let us know how it works for you!
He’s definitely getting blood choked. Judging from what’s posted I could somewhat safely guess that he’s passed out from loss of blood to the brain. Because of the skip in time we don’t know how long he was out.
When you go sleepy time from a strangle the clock starts ticking. The longer the blood is restricted the more potential for brain damage up to and including death. If he was out for more than a couple minutes that could definitely kill him.
A guy who trained at Gracie Barra in Santa Ynez got choked unconscious, didn’t wake up, died in the ambulance on way to hospital.
Aneurysm.
cop looks closer to a 140 lb (aging and ugly) twink than a grizzled 190 lb Adonis-like stud (like myself).
And twink boy was on the side of his neck which is worse.
The guy was cuffed right? Not to worry with qualified immunity which in reality is absolute immunity the cop probably will get off. GWS I am not saying this is what you want to happen.