Hawaii- Done

[SurfFuerteventura]

I find it really hard to give a sh!t about the misfortune that befalls someone who has the money to buy a house like that sight unseen. Keep on pounding the rich imo.

It's nice to bash the "rich",
Until you broaden your scope to include the Third World,
And then suddenly realize,
You are one of Them.



Did you eat three squares yesterday, have a roof over your head to sleep last night and not have to worry about what to eat today?

If you answered yes, you are rich.

 

[vanrysss]

TIL Hawaii is the third world

 

[SurfFuerteventura]

TIL Hawaii is the third world

Though parts surely look like the third world, I "highly" (cause I just got baked) doubt that.... lemme look it up... brb:
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Alfred Sauvy Coined the Term
Alfred Sauvy, a French demographer, anthropologist, and historian, is credited with coining the term Third World during the Cold War. Sauvy observed a group of countries, many former colonies, that did not share the ideological views of Western capitalism or Soviet socialism. "Three worlds, one planet," wrote Sauvy in a 1952 article published in L'Observateur.

What Is the Third World?
"Third World" is an outdated and derogatory phrase that has been used historically to describe a class of economically developing nations. It is part of a four-part segmentation that was used to describe the world's economies by economic status. Third World falls behind First World and Second World but was ahead of Fourth World, though Fourth-World countries were hardly recognized at all. Today, the preferred terminology is a developing nation, an underdeveloped country, or a low- and middle-income country (LMIC).

Defining Developing Nations
There can be a few ways to divide up the world for purposes of economic segmentation. Classifying countries as First, Second, Third, and Fourth World was a concept created during and after the Cold War, which ran from approximately 1945 to the 1990s.

In general, nations are typically characterized by economic status and key economic metrics like gross domestic product (GDP), GDP growth, GDP per capita, employment growth, and an unemployment rate. In developing countries, low production rates and struggling labor market characteristics are usually paired with relatively low levels of education, poor infrastructure, improper sanitation, limited access to health care, and lower costs of living.


Third-World countries included nations in Asia and Africa that were not aligned with either the United States or the Soviet Union. Now, in part because the Soviet Union no longer exists, the definition of Third World is outdated and may be considered offensive to many.

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Me thinks,with the educational, work, health care, income earning, potential there is in Hawaii, it can hardly be defined as third world... there may be some parts or corners that seem that way, but that hardly makes the entire archipelago thus. Income tax, property tax, paved roads, land values, home values... shoots, last I checked you guys do have flushing toilets and indoor plumbing out there by now, yeah?




Granted, I have never had the honor of visiting in this lifetime, yet. So, truck load of salt... but come on, "third world", really? Since when you got low cost of living out there?

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[bluemarlin04]

Def nowhere near third world. Bangladesh is third world and it’s all just poverty and rampant corruption. Barely anyone is literate and health care is non existent. Women and children abused and kidnapped.

 

[JSC]

Def nowhere near third world. Bangladesh is third world and it’s all just poverty and rampant corruption. Barely anyone is literate and health care is non existent. Women and children abused and kidnapped.

Having been to many countries classified as "third world" or "fourth world", Hawaii is far from that status.

Hawaii may have a standard of living far beyond what it could sustain should the statehood-level association with the United States be broken at some point, but it is way beyond "third world" status.

Bangladesh isn't that bad, places in The Philippines are worse. Some of the worst poverty we have seen on surfEXPLORE® projects was in Brasil, El Salvador, Haiti and Angola. Desperate people, living on the very edge of starvation. Sad to see.

Keep the windows rolled up and tell the driver to keep moving.

 

[Pico]

The internet ruined buying Real Estate

 

[bluemarlin04]

Having been to many countries classified as "third world" or "fourth world", Hawaii is far from that status.

Hawaii may have a standard of living far beyond what it could sustain should the statehood-level association with the United States be broken at some point, but it is way beyond "third world" status.

Bangladesh isn't that bad, places in The Philippines are worse. Some of the worst poverty we have seen on surfEXPLORE® projects was in Brasil, El Salvador, Haiti and Angola. Desperate people, living on the very edge of starvation. Sad to see.

Keep the windows rolled up and tell the driver to keep moving.

Papua New Guinea is quite bad too. I think only half can read and their average life span is early 60s

I work for the USG trying to alleviate poverty and assist marginalized populations in these countries.

As anyone could guess, solving it is a complex issue and not easy.

 

[Random Guy]

its spooky how many people DONT make any attempt to learn about the property beforehand...a bunch of years ago i posted a question to the erBB about a house in my neighborhood that had a really nasty suicide... and went on the market super cheep so there were LOTS of people coming by to look at it like 5 -10 couples that i saw...only one person waved me down and asked about the history while i was cutting grass...i told them ...they were shocked the realtor and bank hadn't said a thing about it and ran away...later when i would see people scouting it with a realtor i would walk down and way and ask them if they had been told what was going on...nobody had been given any info...i quit when someone here said i should stop before i get sued by the realtors

but damn...at least ask some questions...ifnits super cheep theres usually a good reason

Were people scared off from buying because of a previous suicide?

after my family moved from the house we grew up in, the next owner committed suicide (shot himself in the head in the bathroom my father had redone)
the widow moved soon after that
I wonder if that event brought down the house value

 

[PPK96754]

I can trace back to when they were citizens of kingdom in Hawaii working in Kohala. They owned a boarding house for immigrants.

But they never owned land cause I am not even sure who did back then. Never really researched it.

My Father is full blooded Hawaiian from the uplands of Kohala ~

 

[bluemarlin04]

My Father is full blooded Hawaiian from the uplands of Kohala ~

I never been. I should go check it out and learn about my history

 

[Autoprax]

Can it be racist if anybody would have caught cracks?

xenophobia?

 

[PPK96754]

Isn't Niihau kapu to kama'aina and even almost all kanaka also?

Yes ~
One can venture there with a helicopter ride provided by the Robinson's tour or by private boat yet not land on shore. ( but it does happen with locals fishing at times )

 

[Autoprax]

its spooky how many people DONT make any attempt to learn about the property beforehand...a bunch of years ago i posted a question to the erBB about a house in my neighborhood that had a really nasty suicide... and went on the market super cheep so there were LOTS of people coming by to look at it like 5 -10 couples that i saw...only one person waved me down and asked about the history while i was cutting grass...i told them ...they were shocked the realtor and bank hadn't said a thing about it and ran away...later when i would see people scouting it with a realtor i would walk down and way and ask them if they had been told what was going on...nobody had been given any info...i quit when someone here said i should stop before i get sued by the realtors

but damn...at least ask some questions...ifnits super cheep theres usually a good reason

In Ca, you have to tell them if the person committed suicide. I know this because my dad killed himself in the garage. And we had to sell the house.

My response if someone told me would be, who cares?

Good riddance!

They are free!

I don't believe in bad vibes in a house.

I carry my bad vibes inside me.

 

[bluemarlin04]

Saw this about Niihau the other day. Super interesting.

 

[hammies]

Saw this about Niihau the other day. Super interesting.

Tre' cool!!

 

[shiratofu602]

Yes ~
One can venture there with a helicopter ride provided by the Robinson's tour or by private boat yet not land on shore. ( but it does happen with locals fishing at times )

 

[shiratofu602]

I’ve done this, you get about 3 hours on the island. But no contact with the residents. Unless they need a helicopter ride back to Kauai.

 

[steamroller]

THREES was KIKA$$as of 15 minutes ago...shoulder high anD...THERES...NO...ONE...OUT!!!

hawaii NOT DONE!!...wheeeeeee

 

[youcantbeserious]

That is true, but as Random Guy mentioned, it is probably illegal to say anything about race or religion in the course of a property transaction - every state likely has different rules in the US, but it is incumbent on the buyer to do their due diligence before buying anything, which the haole buyer in east Maui clearly didn't do.

Don't like Mormons? Then you would want to know if the house you are buying in Ka'a'awa is a predominantly Mormon neighbourhood.

Dislike Tamil-speaking Indians? Then you would want to know if there will be many bloody Indian neighbours for your new flat in Singapore, so it is up to you to go and have a look.

Neither the property agent nor any bank personnel can, or should say anything -

Ka'a'awa is not a predominantly Mormon neighborhood, La'ie is.

Punahou 1841 Buff and Blue nevah teach you dat?

 

[steamroller]

Were people scared off from buying because of a previous suicide?

after my family moved from the house we grew up in, the next owner committed suicide (shot himself in the head in the bathroom my father had redone)
the widow moved soon after that
I wonder if that event brought down the house value

yeah the people i talked to were freaked out...the people who eventually bought it are a pastor and his wife so maybe they have the inside scoop...