Which is your ultimate fav Groveler?

[bigglesworth]

That video made me wonder if you could bring back WEBS gloves from the 80's and market them to the new/recent adult-learner "sarfers" that have crowded the lineups since work-from-home started last Spring. Wouldn't one video of Slater (or maybe even Noel Salsa) using them convince that they are necessary to catch more waves?? LOL. Only half-joking. #milliondollaridea

Never tried a twinzer and have no interest in going down a twinzer rabbit hole with my next few boards (I gotta draw the line somewhere LOL), but genuinely curious: what is the theory behind the twinzer vs. a quad? I expect it's meant to have more control than a twin, but less than a quad?

I have a 5’8” small wave twinzer that i’ve only surfed once. I should give it a few more sessions but my impression was: very similar to a twin frontside, more hold backside but easier release off the top than a quad.

My frontside assessment might have to do more with how I surf though.

 

[urchined]

I’ve been texting back and forth with my local shaper to make the next iteration of my rocket fish a twinzer. Currently a tri. will pull the tail in a bit too.

 

[cjs2002]

im looking into some GH pills and tear drop shapes...anyone have experience with these? I know GH is legit, just wondering if anyone has tried either of these specific shapes?

 

[Havoc]

mantra is the one

if u was to get another i'd get one from that sakal du in ncsd. forgot name of boar.. soap box scraper or sum chit

 

[rgruber]

General thing with grovelers I think is straight rail lines and flat rockers. My best groveler was a Lost Bottom Feeder. I find that too much concave under the front foot is sticky until you get up to speed. A flatter bottom or shallower concaves seems to work better.

The Bottom Feeder actually had belly in the font going into an inset double and vee out the tail.

"The belly continues through the center but features a double concave sitting inside it. Which creates a tri-plane hull featuring a soft chine in the rail. This feeds water through the hull and gives it a feeling closer to a concave bottom board."

Board felt very loose in smaller stuff and was a beast in bigger waves as long as it was soft. Once the wave got bigger with some more curve to it, it stopped working. I tried a couple of Puddle Jumper variations but always felt that the Bottom Feeder was a better board. Set up with big twins in front and upright controllers in the rear it went really well.

Fling was fun too. I think in any of these big twins for drive with either upright quads or a smaller trailer will work.

 

[urchined]

mantra is the one

if u was to get another i'd get one from that sakal du in ncsd. forgot name of boar.. soap box scraper or sum chit

soapbox-derby

 

[oeste858]

soapbox-derby

@Havoc Didn't someone say it was the Fling design?

 

[cjs2002]

soapbox-derby

board looks sick actually

 

[trifish]

I've seen some guys on that GH Pill having fun on small days. The outline on the nose always bugged me some on those models for some reason. Something about how abrupt that nose tip changes.

That soapbox looks like a Fling. Reminds me of this quad I had 10 years back also.

 

[billypilgrim]

There's something about stubby rocket/diamond tails. They've always worked well for me.

 

[Cest]

There's something about stubby rocket/diamond tails. They've always worked well for me.

Yeah, but that is certainly not a groveler...

 

[ciscojaws]

General thing with grovelers I think is straight rail lines and flat rockers. My best groveler was a Lost Bottom Feeder. I find that too much concave under the front foot is sticky until you get up to speed. A flatter bottom or shallower concaves seems to work better.

The Bottom Feeder actually had belly in the font going into an inset double and vee out the tail.

"The belly continues through the center but features a double concave sitting inside it. Which creates a tri-plane hull featuring a soft chine in the rail. This feeds water through the hull and gives it a feeling closer to a concave bottom board."

Board felt very loose in smaller stuff and was a beast in bigger waves as long as it was soft. Once the wave got bigger with some more curve to it, it stopped working. I tried a couple of Puddle Jumper variations but always felt that the Bottom Feeder was a better board. Set up with big twins in front and upright controllers in the rear it went really well.

Fling was fun too. I think in any of these big twins for drive with either upright quads or a smaller trailer will work.

I always thought the Bottom Feeder went better then the PJ.

 

[urchined]

@Havoc Didn't someone say it was the Fling design?

Ryan is the local shaper I mentioned above I get boards from. Ill see him in the next few weeks to get that board done. I’ll ask. I think someone said Ryan shaped for Super and he was part of the design.

 

[ChaseTMP]

Ryan is the local shaper I mentioned above I get boards from. Ill see him in the next few weeks to get that board done. I’ll ask. I think someone said Ryan shaped for Super and he was part of the design.

His LinkedIn says he was production manager there, but no date range was stated.

 

[urchined]

His LinkedIn says he was production manager there, but no date range was stated.

Idk. hes been at moonlight for 5-6 yrs. he ghost a bunch of cc boards. That’s how I started with him.

 

[cjs2002]

I'm putting in an order for an Akila Aipa Contemporary fish. That shape looks so good and they've been super resposnsive and enthusiastic.

 

[trifish]

I'm putting in an order for an Akila Aipa Contemporary fish. That shape looks so good and they've been super resposnsive and enthusiastic.

Heads up, I've had one on order since early July. He is slammed.

 

[Aruka]

Heads up, I've had one on order since early July. He is slammed.

yeah my buddy had one on order for like 4 months before finally canceling the order. then a couple months later they hit him up saying your board is done. he was like, uhhh.

they sorted it out no problem but yeah, sounds like they are slammed.

 

[spenat]

I really like my hitchcock by barry snyder.

Thing is rad, great for the high tide southbay type days.

something about low boxy rails, and the voodoo bottom he has on it

 

[oeste858]

I'm putting in an order for an Akila Aipa Contemporary fish. That shape looks so good and they've been super resposnsive and enthusiastic.

Funny, they stopped replying to my status requests. I ordered same time as trifish. I keep meaning to call.
But I got a hold of a new 5'10 one locally, and it is insane- even at a couple inches/liters too big for me. So I think the one I ordered will be perfect... worth whatever hassle or wait.