Any erBB real world ride reports? Still intrigued by the tech but would love some more feedback before pulling the trigger and dropping the extra $$$$
Poly vs Varial Surfers Village
Poly vs Varial Surfers Village
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Unfortunately surfers are by and large retarded. Why so many Firewires? Marketing. Why so many Surftechs? Marketing. If the big manufacturers started pushing this stuff it would be the second coming - I mean CI and Lost, maybe Rusty too. Just because Biolos is featured in this article doesn't mean he's pushing it.barnod said:i haven't tried one but from what i gather no one really prefers it to the bread n butter PU. if it felt great you'd think there would be more chatter as it has been around for almost ~6 months?
Well when you put it that way...retodd said:I think the added 125 cost justtfor the blank is just too much , then if its being cnc'd they will charge more for being stringerless.
Then u have rocker issues with varial blanks
Then u have the fact they have a nasty chemical smell
Ummmmm why did u wanna try one againg ?
we're making one for one of our bro'sAruka said:So no one has actually ridden one though?
Might have to take one for the team since I've been itching for a new sled lately.
Also I like the thought of forcing some smelly, toxic dust on GWS.
averagejoe said:we're making one for one of our bro'sAruka said:So no one has actually ridden one though?
Might have to take one for the team since I've been itching for a new sled lately.
Also I like the thought of forcing some smelly, toxic dust on GWS.
i will get a chance to ride it
should get the cut dropped off today
So is that a no on cutting me a new shorty?GWS said:averagejoe said:we're making one for one of our bro'sAruka said:So no one has actually ridden one though?
Might have to take one for the team since I've been itching for a new sled lately.
Also I like the thought of forcing some smelly, toxic dust on GWS.
i will get a chance to ride it
should get the cut dropped off today
I've cut about 20 of them at this point. Maybe 30. I have one in the racks that is a demo for a personal. My son has one sitting there as well. Just haven't gotten around to it yet. There' a few other issues besides the smell/toxicity etc. Which, I did four of them with a dust mask on and I had to shut the shop and go home with a nasty, nasty headache. You need chem filters on a respirator. And long sleeves and/or a jumpsuit so it isn't on your skin. Everything opened up and fans on high. You take those steps and the headaches stopped.
There's been some issues with rockers. I have a hard time getting the same thing twice. Which means every blank has to be mapped. They were machining blocks of foam into blank configuration at first. The last ones I saw they had heated and bent the rocker in. There were some twist issues. Then as I cut them, as material was removed from the blank, you could watch the blank untwist as it cut. Not good. So hopefully they won't be doing that anymore. Twist and spring-back are the possible problems.
The payoff is super light surfboards. And they are amazingly strong. Guys are getting away with single four on stringer-less blanks. And you grab the board and thumb it, (please don't thumb surfboards unless you are a trained professional ) and they are amazingly hard. You can put a stringer-less milled blank on the floor deck down and push on the center of it and it behaves like a blank with a stringer in it re the way it flexes. Super interesting stuff. But they have a few issues to work through before it goes big. They need to either figure out a way of hot wiring it, (I have no idea of whether that is possible) or blow the stuff in a mold. Machining blanks out of a block is too time intensive IMO. The heat/bend thing was a total failure IMO.
Wow. Such insight from a guy who has built a handful of boards.Northern_Shores said:"The advantage of going stringerless is that it eliminates the inconsistent flex properties of wood - due to the knots and grain density in wood that vary slightly from stringer to stringer. The end result is flex consistency from blank to blank."
Off all the retarded crap in surfboard marketing that is probably the stupidest I`ve read. Atleast for a long time. Improbable claims are thrown around as facts.
I'll be there Sat. Just hanging out, seeing old friends and a little business.J_D_J said:The finished boards have felt pretty good under the arm -- I've only seen boards from Doc with Varial foam. Although the toxic smell, dust, etc., if accurate, is no bueno. PU is bad enough.
Barry, are you at the Boardroom next weekend?