ukraine war 2024

[PRCD]

This just came out earlier today 2/22/24

Experts analyze state of Ukraine war 2 years into Russia's invasion

Saturday marks two years since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. With the conflict at a frozen and brutal stalemate, Nick Schifrin discussed where the war is, where it could go and U.S. policy toward Ukraine with Michael Kofman, John Mearsheimer and Rebeccah Heinrichs.

www.pbs.org

PBS brought Measheimer on? Lol. He's been saying the same stuff about Ukraine since at least 2016, but this is a sign that the Narrative has shifted. Remember, we said a lot of stuff about the COVID regime during the COVID regime that was later vindicated, but it didn't end until the NYT ran an op-ed that ended it. People don't want to know the truth, they want to Trust the Plan (TM).

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[afoaf]

agree about the media. but about putin, we will see if it was foolish. he doesn't come across as a foolish type person to me. maybe evil, but not foolish

it's been two years....he's lost major set pieces, he's drafting convicts

it's pushed Finland into NATO with Sweden soon to follow

I don't think this is good for him or Russia as a whole

 

[Autoprax]

You just proved my point. You’re ok with hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths just to stick it to Putin. You’re free to feel this way but to be intellectually honest this is the point you should be arguing. How many deaths and how much of Ukraine should be destroyed are ok with you to prevent Putin from getting some benefit?

Are you willing to die for it?


His reasoning for going into Ukraine is very specific to Ukraine.


So what if does? Russia has been exposed to be not quite as powerful as they had been made out to be.

And truth be told, Putin may be a lot of things but he isn’t stupid. He knows that if the Russians step foot outside of russia/ukraine it’s over for them.

Autistic retard.

Why straw man me, bro?

We simply disagree that he'll stop at Ukraine.

He's said he wants to rebuild the Soviet Union.

That is the underlying something something.

But neither of us know what the future is.

I envy your certainty.

You not an autistic retard.

Just dumb.

 

[Woke AF]

You just proved my point. You’re ok with hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths just to stick it to Putin. You’re free to feel this way but to be intellectually honest this is the point you should be arguing. How many deaths and how much of Ukraine should be destroyed are ok with you to prevent Putin from getting some benefit?

Are you willing to die for it?


His reasoning for going into Ukraine is very specific to Ukraine.


So what if does? Russia has been exposed to be not quite as powerful as they had been made out to be.

And truth be told, Putin may be a lot of things but he isn’t stupid. He knows that if the Russians step foot outside of russia/ukraine it’s over for them.

Autistic retard.

Do you ever stop mansplaining?

Nobody is ok with many deaths.
Ukrainians have gone to war against Russian aggression, their choice.

I don't care if you are ok with this.

 

[Ifallalot]

Do you ever stop mansplaining?

Nobody is ok with many deaths.
Ukrainians have gone to war against Russian aggression, their choice.

I don't care if you are ok with this.

Yes, their choice

Therefore stop stealing my money to give to them

 

[Ifallalot]

I remember this one time a girl was getting gang raped.

I figured I should let them finish.

If I intervene I might get hurt.

I might stretch out the time of the raping and murder.

LMAO and afoaf liked it?

So much for your guys' BAD CUMPARSUN game

 

[afoaf]

LMAO and afoaf liked it?

So much for your guys' BAD CUMPARSUN game

please share some more of your worthless opinions

we've seen what you consider a valid comparison

my 11 year old can do better

 

[PRCD]

LMAO and afoaf liked it?

So much for your guys' BAD CUMPARSUN game

You can talk "facts" with like-minded people. With everyone else - which is almost everyone - you have to ask, "What will happen if we do that?" or "How will that work?" In the case of the Ukraine, for example, ask them questions such as, "How is a country of 40 million people supposed to defeat a determined neighbor country of 140 million, both having about the same birth rates?" and "What will happen if we send a bunch of our troops into the Ukraine?" and "How many troops would that require?" etc. You don't win anything with "facts" - the best you can do is put a rock in their shoe with some "What" or "How" questions. Even if you do this, you're going to be dealing with people who are used to cynical Jon Stewart-style posing and accusations and have to decide if the juice is worth the squeeze.

 

[Ifallalot]

please share some more of your worthless opinions

we've seen what you consider a valid comparison

my 11 year old can do better

Get a grip

If I made that comparison you two would have had conniption fits

And it is a valid comparison; but if it came out of my mouth there would have been Silicon Valley-level sperging

 

[Kento]

More people will get killed and the US will continue to trickle in just enough money and weapons to ensure that this conflict is as prolonged and profitable as possible.

Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands will be killed, Ukraine itself will be obliterated (to be rebuilt by politically connected contractors at huge profits paid for by American taxpayer).

The grift and theft and killings must continue.

We will declare victory.

Halliburton and Bechtel to the rescue.

 

[Autoprax]

LMAO and afoaf liked it?

So much for your guys' BAD CUMPARSUN game

No, you are the guy that wants to watch the girl get raped.

IF we just let him finish raping problem solved!

NOT MY PROBLEM!

PS sorry I hurt your feelings all those times I called out your shitty metaphors.

 

[Pico]

No, you are the guy that wants to watch the girl get raped.

IF we just let him finish raping problem solved!

NOT MY PROBLEM!

PS sorry I hurt your feelings all those times I called out your shitty metaphors.

One womans rape is another mans entertainment. Indifference is support

 

[Pico]

That lesson is captured in a poem by Martin Niemöller:

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no-one left
to speak out.

 

[Mr Doof]

We simply disagree that he'll stop at Ukraine.

He's said he wants to rebuild the Soviet Union.

 

[Pico]

Future research should also provide a better understanding of how in different places and times, people were mobilized or came to do what they did—or did not do—to facilitate the persecution and mass murder of other human beings.

Bystanders

Explore definitions, connotations, and evolving considerations when using the term bystanders in the range of behaviors and motivations during the Holocaust.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

 

[afoaf]

Get a grip

If I made that comparison you two would have had conniption fits

And it is a valid comparison; but if it came out of my mouth there would have been Silicon Valley-level sperging

I don't believe I would have

a woman getting raped isn't "your problem" so why intervene?

because it's the right thing to do, perhaps. you may disagree on what is right or wrong, but many would see it that way.

then the question becomes the personal cost of intervening

if you don't object to the Ukraine war on the question of right or wrong, the next most common objection seems to be that we shouldn't put our own skin (read: money) in the game

the question of intervention then becomes a cost/benefit analysis of intervening balanced against whether or not you think you can affect positive change

seems straightforward and apropos to me

 

[Pico]

Yes, their choice

Therefore stop stealing my money to give to them

We are not stealing your money. Its our money.

 

[crustBrother]

Its our money.

please stop using our money to throw a war party for the military industrial complex

thank you!

 

[hammies]

Can we all agree that Putin wants to rebuild the USSR, and that a rebuilt USSR is not in America's best interests?

 

[Pico]

please stop using our money to throw a war party for the military industrial complex

thank you!

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