Tyre Nichols

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Brilliant.

Here's a guy who thinks we should protest against criminals, rather than against a government institution, supported by a taxpayer to protect us, instead abuse its power and kill and maim citizens.

No wonder he puts on ignore people who point out his stupidity and hypocrisy.
This.

Look at clowns like iFall. All they ever talk about is how They want to control us” or some variation of control, oppression, suppression, etc. Which can only lead us to believe that the only reason he’s not shitting his pants about unarmed black Americans getting killed in the streets by Law Enforcement is that he doesn’t consider black Americans to be us.
 

VonMeister

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This is where the problem begins. PD's all over the country are ordered to watch and retreat. This feeds the us against them cycle in the same way the cops did when they went all out to protect their own when they went out and framed or tuned up people in neighborhoods. Both policies are abhorrent yet the left only feels that one needs to be addressed..

 

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Either, and/or. Whichever works for you.
My best buddy in High School got run over by a drunk off duty cop (while tripping !! ) riding his bicycle on the SIDEWALK ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET of the cop's direction of travel, best lawyer in the State could not win a judgement against a cop back in the day !! )

Worst that ever happened (tripping first time eva !! ) to me was pouring out beer for the Mi State Boys and getting kicked out of the State Park Campground and we had to go laugh it off about 10 miles away in a (at that time !! ) desolate part of the beach !! )

Fond memory getting directions to The Hempstead Freeway from a police officer after Pink Floyd at Nassau Colosseum when Rog was still part of the band !! ) Everybody was parking on the side of the Freeway and we thought "what the hell" and we walked around the parking lot for about an hour before I thought to ask directions !! :) )
 

$kully

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Used to date a cop. The stuff I have heard and seen.

There are some good eggs, they are drowned out by the idiots and could never speak out against them.
I have a couple of high school classmates who went on to be cops…

1. Kidnapped his ex-girlfriend at gunpoint with his service weapon while she was running on a treadmill at the gym. Got arrested and suspended from the force. While he was out on bail awaiting discipline he commited suicide by driving his Lexus into a Cliff at the end of an interstate connector at 120mph. He was always a roid-raging juicehead. None of this was surprising.

2. My hometown Mayor/Former Chief of Police’s son. Played little league with him as a kid. Joined the neighboring towns politics force and through family connections was rapidly promoted to Narcotics Detective. Got addicted to opioids following a work injury and ended up getting arrested for stealing large quantities of drug evidence. Got a slap on the wrist and served no time. Prob half because of his father being the mayor of the neighboring town and half him being a cop. He’s supposedly clean and a drug counselor now. I still see him on Facebook from time to time, talks a good game about all he’s overcome but has never shown an ounce of remorse for the others he locked up on narcotics charges while stealing the evidence for himself.

only the finest!
 

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As for what happens next, the group plans to gather again after Tyre’s funeral which falls on the first day of black history month.

 

plasticbertrand

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How do you, a white guy, know people of color (aka colored people) have a different relationship with the police, period?

My experiences with cops have been almost universally negative.

That includes my experience with customs too.

I'm white.
How do you, a white guy, know that racism doesn't exist anymore and that it's just being manufactured by the media?

Furthermore, who asked you to decide what constitutes racism?
 

sirfun

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:)

To the Editor:
My first (cynical) thought as I looked at the photos of the five officers who were charged with murder of Tyre Nichols was: The prosecution would not have been so swift and just if they were white.

Lynn Bernstein
Brooklyn


 

casa_mugrienta

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So, were these two the former corrections officers?

Hiring ex prison guards to be cops seems like an incredibly foolish idea.

Also, this:

"The department also revealed that was even offering waivers for people who have been convicted on felony charges."
 
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casa_mugrienta

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You mean a lower class black neighborhood? There are plenty of drugs in white suburbs. Police just look the other way.
False.

Lower class black neighborhoods are targets for drug busts because so much drug dealing takes place in the open on the street.

Obviously this makes everything a lot easier.
 

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As multiple video recordings of the fatal police beating of Tyre Nichols in Memphis were released to the public on Friday night, the nation prepared for the reaction. Peaceful protests can easily turn into violent ones, especially in a country that is rightly outraged about the ongoing police brutality against Black men. It has become a familiar call and response: Police misconduct leads to more harm in or for the communities that were targeted by the misconduct in the first place.

But as Friday night unfolded, the protests remained peaceful; news reports showed Americans in various cities righteously and nonviolently demanding justice. We have witnessed many peaceful protests in response to police violence before, but there was one noticeable difference this time around: Rollout of the video footage seemed highly choreographed.

By the time protesters were chanting in the streets, the five officers who had beaten Nichols, a 29-year-old Black man, had already been charged with second-degree murder. By the time the video footage of the attack was released, the anger and dismay had already been predicted; law-enforcement and political leaders had issued statements preparing the public for some of the worst police violence this nation has seen. The Memphis police chief likened Nichols’s beating to that of Rodney King in 1991. These officials were right: The footage was brutal, at times unbearable, with Nichols appearing not to resist the officers as they repeatedly struck him. All of this reveals the sad fact that, because of the sheer number of times Americans have now confronted videos of police officers killing Black citizens, public officials have gotten better at managing the shock.

This observation is not meant to minimize the police violence on display in the Memphis videos and so many before, but to acknowledge how important it is to mitigate the harm that such violence can cause even beyond the misconduct itself. As we have seen too many times, when videos reveal police violence or verdicts fail to bring officers to justice, the result is often more violence, including clashes between civilians and police. The Rodney King verdict in 1992, in which four Los Angeles police officers were acquitted for a beating that aired on television, led to the L.A. riots. During those days of unrest, 63 people died from violence related to what had started out as peaceful protests. The deaths of Michael Brown, George Floyd, and others also sparked violence in the streets—each side with its own narrative of who had initiated it—in addition to large, peaceful demonstrations. Our nation has been through this so many times before.

The release of the Nichols footage suggests that a combination of factors can help prevent police-civilian clashes, though it might be too soon to say. First, there was the quick firing of the five police officers involved, even before criminal charges were filed, and before the videos were made public. This rarely happens, but it is the correct response when the facts are impossible to defend. Memphis Mayor Jim Strickland also made a commitment to examine the city’s SCORPION squad, its supposedly elite street-crime unit to which the police officers involved in Nichols’s beating were assigned. On Friday, just before the release of the footage, Strickland went further and said the unit would be “inactive” for the foreseeable future.

Then there were the very direct and ominous warnings of what the public could expect to see in the videos, which were available in the first place only because of the increased use of body and street-pole cameras in response to previous incidents of police brutality. Memphis Police Chief Cerelyn Davis cautioned that the footage showed something “heinous” and “inhumane.” We were told to prepare for scenes at least as terrible as King’s beating. Americans have already been trained to expect horror in such videos, but officials made explicit that the footage would provoke outrage. Though the footage itself was still far worse than any description, people were braced for it.



 

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This is no example of out-of-control police brutality or racism. The claims we see here come from the usual suspects who are looking for any excuse to justify their hatred of civil authority.



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.....Over at the Manhattan Institute, always a good source of unbiased information, Heather MacDonald sets out the too often ignored facts on police killings, facts which do not support reducing or defunding law enforcement.
Among the highlights of her work are these:

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the evidence does not support the charge that biased police are systematically killing Black Americans in fatal shootings.
Much of modern policing is driven by crime data and community demands for help. The African American community tends to be policed more heavily, because that is where people are disproportionately hurt by violent street crime. In New York City in 2018, 73% of shooting victims were Black, though Black residents comprise only 24% of the city’s population.
Nationally, African Americans between the ages of 10 and 34 die from homicide at 13 times the rate of white Americans, according to researchers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Justice Department.
Community requests also determine police deployment, and the most urgent requests often come from law-abiding residents of high-crime neighborhoods.
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As we’ve grown to expect from past riots, the rioters will cause most damage in Black communities, destroying homes, shops, and neighborhoods of the responsible people who live there. So MacDonald’s observation cannot be startling to anyone who paid attention: Blacks want more police in their neighborhood.

She also refutes the sensational media coverage which creates the false impression that there is an epidemic of police shooting of unarmed Blacks,

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For the last five years, the police have fatally shot about 1,000 civilians annually, the vast majority of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. Black people account for about 23% of those shot and killed by police; they are about 13% of the U.S. population.
As of the June 22 update, the Washington Post’s database of fatal police shootingsshowed 14 unarmed Black victims and 25 unarmed white victims in 2019. The database does not include those killed by other means, like George Floyd.
The number of unarmed Black shooting victims is down 63% from 2015, when the database began. There are about 7,300 Black homicide victims a year. The 14 unarmed victims in fatal police shootings would comprise only 0.2% of that total.
Ideally, officers would never take anyone’s life in the course of their duties. But given the number of arrests they make each year (around 10 million) and the number of deadly-weapons attacks on officers (an average of 27 per dayin just two-thirds of the nation’s police departments, according to a 2014 analysis), it is not clear that these 1,000 civilian shooting deaths suggest that law enforcement is out of control.
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A study by Harvard economists showed that when police who were accused of racism, pulled back from protective policing in six cities “there were almost 900 excess homicides and almost 34,000 excess felonies.”

This is not to say, that continued efforts to improve police practices should stop. Nor does it justify refusing to remove from law enforcement ranks bad cops, it is however, a strong basis to resist the propaganda that excuses Black crime and would increase it by hamstringing law enforcement from neighborhoods which most need it......
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