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100%. I’m just having fun fanning flames. Lol.Not gossip….but I thought it was common knowledge. Not a big deal, it’s industry wide. I hope people don’t think DT, Maurice Cole, James Cheal, etc are actually shaping and signing the boards built here. How can they, they aren’t even in the country, lol!!
that could be a win-win for a lot of people, esp those who in the US who want a Tomo but not thru FWTook the words right out of my mouth. Reforest you should be a tomo rep and handle the orders. you have the combo of stoke and experience riding a lot of his shapes.
I find it weird he is not comfortable with xtr using his name (superior product) but fireturd has a whole line up his boards I am sure he never touchedNot gossip….but I thought it was common knowledge. Not a big deal, it’s industry wide. I hope people don’t think DT, Maurice Cole, James Cheal, etc are actually shaping and signing the boards built here. How can they, they aren’t even in the country, lol!!
True but his logo which is same as name is on each fw boardTo be fair FW is completely transparent that Dan is not actually shaping the board which is acknowledged as being made in Thailand
The Duke and Akila Aipa boards confuse me most and reason why I never ordered a Aipa post Ben ...RIPScribbles are supposed to be unique. Logo lams are clearly a reproduction.
Peeps even get confused with lams with a fake scribble (rusty)
Well, unless one is getting paid to ride them they are all technically recreational toys.Apples and oranges. I don’t consider FW/Slater Designs real surfboards, just recreational toys. More worldwide units sold=More royalties=More income for DT. Easy call for him, imo
If they did they were fools. The guy hasn't lived in the USA for at least 5 years.this is some beachgrit level gossip re: forged DT signatures.
how many people thought they were getting a scrubbed DT over the years…
If I were a shaper of his caliber I wouldn't want my name on the stuff coming out of XTR...the finish shaping on some of those Tomo boards was so bad. Hard edge on one side of the tail, soft edge on the other, channels not aligned properly, etc.I find it weird he is not comfortable with xtr using his name (superior product)
In your comparative idiom, apples are professional instruments or something and oranges are recreational toys?Apples and oranges. I don’t consider FW/Slater Designs real surfboards, just recreational toys.
A lam and a signature is a pretty significant difference. You can’t put a lam on a contract and then say it was signed by the signor? A fake signature is a totally different story. XTR was essentially forging Dan’s signature, whether he was aware of it or not, without any mention of the ghost shaper. Firewire makes it clear that the shape is created by Tomo but manufactured by firewire.I find it weird he is not comfortable with xtr using his name (superior product) but fireturd has a whole line up his boards I am sure he never touched
I did not know xtr did/does thatDo they do same with cole and even Aipa or does duke shape blank and glass xtrYes agree sig from actual shaper false sounds sketchy as fuk but hope most realize it and reason why I never ordered a cole and even a aipa but still your laminate is your brand and represents your product and what you stand for etc. I know stretch got suked in yet got out pretty fast to whole surftech bs so more people could surf his boards. In the end instead of pop ups he decided shops up to his standard: CAD design, glassing,etc. In Feance, Brazil, Japan, and Austrilia.A lam and a signature is a pretty significant difference. You can’t put a lam on a contract and then say it was signed by the signor? A fake signature is a totally different story. XTR was essentially forging Dan’s signature, whether he was aware of it or not, without any mention of the ghost shaper. Firewire makes it clear that the shape is created by Tomo but manufactured by firewire.
Took the words right out of my mouth
Like fire wire would alow a higher quality epsTomo + Varial = Oh yeah
That video made me think of comedian Sebastian Maniscalco‘s punch line“Aren't You Embarrassed?”.Firewire's target market right here.
I clicked on the video which popped up on my You tube feed because I mistakenly thought it could be Bryce Young...imagine my horror when the clip played on?