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***The Official Mid-Length Thread***
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i haven't ridden the CI mid twin but based on the regular Mid it would not be my first choice for small, weak surf.
tail is not very wide and it's fairly thin. wouldn't be my top choice for the small stuff. although I'm sure it's fun in the right conditions and I would definitely choose it over the 2+1 version.
tail is not very wide and it's fairly thin. wouldn't be my top choice for the small stuff. although I'm sure it's fun in the right conditions and I would definitely choose it over the 2+1 version.
One thing I dislike about the design, or rather the CI construction, is that it’s heavy. Wouldn’t want to try that in small weak surf. There’s a Varial 6’7” available that weighs 7.4 pounds, however. Same weight as a regular PU HPSB.
I have a CI Mid 2+1 in Varial and the construction feels good and lively, I would recommend. But note that and the twin version are both made for descent surf. Also overall If you want a mid for small surf I would recommend 2+1 over twin mid length, the I've had a few and twin mids are clunky unless you have a nice wall. Not as easy to access but my Andreini Vaquero eats up the small stuff, where as my other mids (CI2+1 and Sabre twin) need some down the line juice. Took me some trial and error to figure this out.
Maybe you’re thinking of the twin pin?
The mid twin is so flat and egg shaped that is hard to imagine needing good surf. Because there’s little if any concave on the bottom?
Also there’s supposed to be more kick in the tail on the mid twin than the mid.
Don’t want to rain on your (4th) parade but as Pete mentions, the ci mids aren’t really designed for anything under shoulder high with a little shape. vee means smooth rail to rail but less able to generate speed in slow waves. Listen to anything Devon Howard has ever said about eggs and it’s always ride a log or something short and speed generating ( fishy ?) in small waves.
FWIW I have a 6’10 twin that goes great in chest high plus that’s similar to the CI but has a wider squash tail and plenty of concave to help it. Even that I won’t ride below chest high. The extra length of eggy mids prefer a decent face to draw lines on. If you can let go of “performance” then something that trims and draws lateral lines like a vaquero or 7’6 a 8’ outlier or Lovelace thick lizzy is worth looking at
( or as Pete notes the 7’0 outlier that’s a giant mini Simmons)
My friend has one but haven’t tried it yet. He prefers it to the 2+1 he had but still thinks it needs a decent wave. He’s a good logger sizing down rather than a short boarder sizing up and his is fairly small for him. Maybe if you go for a longer one it would work in small waves?
Edir- this is the 6’10 I mentioned. Quite similar to duffys I guess!
Forget the borts, I need some of those slip-ons.My friend has one but haven’t tried it yet. He prefers it to the 2+1 he had but still thinks it needs a decent wave. He’s a good logger sizing down rather than a short boarder sizing up and his is fairly small for him. Maybe if you go for a longer one it would work in small waves?
Edir- this is the 6’10 I mentioned. Quite similar to duffys I guess!
No, not the CI Twin Pin, although that may grovel better that the mid with less rail, I was referring to mid lengths in general. I've had Townsend and MC Twin Pin as well none go well under chest high. The only one is my Vaquero, I am certain there are others. I was listening to a podcast with D Howard a while ago and he pretty much summed up what I found on my own that less lined up he goes to 2+1, and lined up points twin. If you want a twin mid to grovel you may want to look at a Plasmic Mid Twin?
What everyone else has said, most eggs aren't really grovelers despite the flat rocker. They need a bit of a wave, preferably a lined up wall. The fin configuration seems more a matter of preference.
That 7'0 Outlier, different than the 7'6 and 8'0 versions, looks like the ticket for this sort of board for small waves. Real has a good review of it. I've been keeping my eye out for a used one.
That 7'0 Outlier, different than the 7'6 and 8'0 versions, looks like the ticket for this sort of board for small waves. Real has a good review of it. I've been keeping my eye out for a used one.
I decided to put this one on the mid length thread rather than the twinzer thread to promote discussion. Is this a mid length?
6'-5" x 20-1/4" x 2-1/2". I was really happy with the outline (and rocker, foil and rails). I moved the wide point 3" above center. But it is also at center. It is also 2" aft of center. 2 lb EPS. Unlike my others there is no glass under the veneer, not even on the deck. I was trying to see how light I could get it and still be durable. We'll see. E/S hybrid glass (E in the warp to maintain flex, S in the weft for dent resistance). The S fibers are visible going across the board and the laps and deck patches are kind of milky and visible.
4" nose rocker, 2" tail. The photos make it looks like more nose flip. Over 1/4" single concave (more than I previously used), transitioning to vee between the feet ( about 20" up), with double concaves starting in the vee 1/8 deep. Aft of the fins the vee maxes out at 1/4" at swallow tips (so I figure 2-1/4" tail rocker at the tips, 2-1/2" if you calculate the 1/4" single).
I foiled the tail and rails pretty thin this time. Looking forward to riding it.
I sanded the bottom to 1500. Still not glossy but it was enough to make the grain figure pop.
Oh, under 7 lbs
6'-5" x 20-1/4" x 2-1/2". I was really happy with the outline (and rocker, foil and rails). I moved the wide point 3" above center. But it is also at center. It is also 2" aft of center. 2 lb EPS. Unlike my others there is no glass under the veneer, not even on the deck. I was trying to see how light I could get it and still be durable. We'll see. E/S hybrid glass (E in the warp to maintain flex, S in the weft for dent resistance). The S fibers are visible going across the board and the laps and deck patches are kind of milky and visible.
4" nose rocker, 2" tail. The photos make it looks like more nose flip. Over 1/4" single concave (more than I previously used), transitioning to vee between the feet ( about 20" up), with double concaves starting in the vee 1/8 deep. Aft of the fins the vee maxes out at 1/4" at swallow tips (so I figure 2-1/4" tail rocker at the tips, 2-1/2" if you calculate the 1/4" single).
I foiled the tail and rails pretty thin this time. Looking forward to riding it.
I sanded the bottom to 1500. Still not glossy but it was enough to make the grain figure pop.
Oh, under 7 lbs
