Refinance now??

JBerry

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wow nice. 2 pts, thats quite a bit buy down. we bought down .38 and it made it worth it
 

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wow nice. 2 pts, thats quite a bit buy down. we bought down .38 and it made it worth it
Yes it's huge cost and I'm still second guessing my decision. Basically starting over from where I began 5 years ago. Didn't pull any cash. My reasoning is that I'll save $500 month and barring apocalypse I'm here for more than 10 years. And of course now the apocalypse is beginning.
 

JBerry

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Yes it's huge cost and I'm still second guessing my decision. Basically starting over from where I began 5 years ago. Didn't pull any cash. My reasoning is that I'll save $500 month and barring apocalypse I'm here for more than 10 years. And of course now the apocalypse is beginning.
Totally, for us we were 4 yrs. out, so it made sense as well. kids are young so we'll be here for 10 at least.
It's all about the monthly nut, plus if we ever want to move we can rent out and cash in.
 

JBerry

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closed today. It can be done
how long did it end up taking? 30-45 days?

Wife said interest rates could drop more in the coming future. For the select few that still have jobs, income, good credit, you could get a really good rate.
 

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how long did it end up taking? 30-45 days?

Wife said interest rates could drop more in the coming future. For the select few that still have jobs, income, good credit, you could get a really good rate.
I started the process March 5

Yeah maybe rates will get better. I’m seeing lenders offering sh!t rates right now - seems like they’re trying to discourage new borrowers. I’m happy with my rate. Was able to see what my payment would be at 2.75 it’s not a huge difference
 
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credit union refi just locked 2.675 fixed 30, 2 points. can float once as well. I'm at 3.5 now.
if you're in California with a loan amount of $350k-$510400, please dont do that.

You can get 2.99-3.125% 30 year fixed or 2.5-2.625% 15 year fixed. same rate/same APR, no cost loan.

I cover all the fees minus a $250 HOA certification fee (if applicable), which is rolled in the loan

Just have 740+ credit, verifiable income on w2's/paystubs. Close the loan in 24 days or less.

ask @DW2 or @FresnoRipper. If interested, call my office line 949-635-4019
 
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JBerry

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LO said if we paid a 1/2 pt. we could get a 2.875%/30yr today.
Rates dropped a bit this week. Not quite ready to pay 1/2 pt, but if they drop again any further, I'm in again.

Pretty good rates if you need to refi.
 

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LO said if we paid a 1/2 pt. we could get a 2.875%/30yr today.
Rates dropped a bit this week. Not quite ready to pay 1/2 pt, but if they drop again any further, I'm in again.

Pretty good rates if you need to refi.
That’s what I got. I paid it.

This house is my second property and we are planning on making it a rental so was worth it to pay down the rate.

Now it’s cash flow positive which is hard to do in Windward oahu next to the beach unless you got a massive down payment.
 
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If you have to pay any closing costs at all and the rate is less than a point lower than where you currently are, the only person that benefits is the loan officer in many cases.

If anyone wants my .$02 about particular situation, PM me.
 
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If you have to pay any closing costs at all and the rate is less than a point lower than where you currently are, the only person that benefits is the loan officer in many cases.

If anyone wants my .$02 about particular situation, PM me.
i'm right on the line- sent an email to my guy at Chase that did my refi back in January. 3.6 for 20 years. I literally asked him exactly that- no closing cost refi at 2.6%? Quicken does no cost refi's for existing loan holders, we'll see what chase says
 

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Now if you're reducing the loan term (like to a 15 from a 30) the closing cost equation becomes less important, as the amount you'll save in interest over the life of a loan will be 10X what you pay in closing costs.
 

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Now if you're reducing the loan term (like to a 15 from a 30) the closing cost equation becomes less important, as the amount you'll save in interest over the life of a loan will be 10X what you pay in closing costs.
In my situation I came to the table with about 17k for loan costs. Don’t recall the specific break down.

In my situation it reduced my payment on my rental house to make it cash flow positions. I will never ever ever sell the house.

I didn’t like spending that money but in the long run it made sense.

If i wasn’t planning on making it my rental then I’d agree with you
 

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In my situation I came to the table with about 17k for loan costs. Don’t recall the specific break down.

In my situation it reduced my payment on my rental house to make it cash flow positions. I will never ever ever sell the house.

I didn’t like spending that money but in the long run it made sense.

If i wasn’t planning on making it my rental then I’d agree with you
Yeah -- I don't like trading today money for future money -- I'm risk averse like a mawfugga tho.

I think a 15 year loan on a rental prop, even if the cashflow is negative, is a smart investment. But I have a Three Little Pigs financial strategy and, ironically, loathe debt of any kind.
 

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if you're in California with a loan amount of $350k-$510400, please dont do that.

You can get 2.99-3.125% 30 year fixed or 2.5-2.625% 15 year fixed. same rate/same APR, no cost loan.

I cover all the fees minus a $250 HOA certification fee (if applicable), which is rolled in the loan

Just have 740+ credit, verifiable income on w2's/paystubs. Close the loan in 24 days or less.

ask @DW2 or @FresnoRipper. If interested, call my office line 949-635-4019

Thanks for the tip. Going through the motions right now. If it goes sideways I'll be giving you a call.
 

Ranga

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The make do it
i'm right on the line- sent an email to my guy at Chase that did my refi back in January. 3.6 for 20 years. I literally asked him exactly that- no closing cost refi at 2.6%? Quicken does no cost refi's for existing loan holders, we'll see what chase says
They may do it just to keep the servicing value. And with any luck, you'll get to keep your remaining term the same.
 

Ranga

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Does interest rate go up if you pull cash?
Depends on the loan to value ratio. The more leveraged you are (the smaller your equity position) the worse the rate can be. Especially if you have sh!t credit, which, anymore, is anything below 720.
 

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Yeah -- I don't like trading today money for future money -- I'm risk averse like a mawfugga tho.
I don’t either.

But the house is literally a 5 minute walk to Kailua beach.

There isn’t any other land available.

So in this situation I’m letting it ride

Once it’s paid off that’s monthly income for me that is more then my pensions. For doing nothing other then letting someone service my loan for 30 years and paying for some repairs here and there