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*** Official Corona Virus Thread ***
- Thread starter Planet_Erff
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Dr. Autoprax, MD knows what would've happened. Sorry, I don't think you're medically-qualified to say what medicines will do unless you're at least a veterinarian like Albert Bourla, CEO of Pfizer.
Maybe good is not the goal but the pretext. Do you think this man is good? Give me your gut feeling and reasons for it.
I can see him running an all-hands meeting where he says, "FROM NOW ON, 2+2=5! Anyone who disagrees can put their stuff in a box and hand in their badge," and all the employees nodding solemnly in agreement.
Bear in mind that this was the most-human they could make him look with executive coaching.
I have his microchipped protein slurry in my veins - turning me into a mutant as we speak.. So does my family.
I don't give a f___ if he looks evil. Maybe his is. But I ain't in the ICU, or dead of Covid.
But that's just me.
Good for you.
Shot.
Chaser.
I ain't in the ICU, or dead of Covid either!
Let's compare California to Missouri:
I'll leave the normalization of the Y-axis to numbers/million to you.
I then ordered the tabulated data by deaths/million. ALmost the same!
When does your gumshoe reporter do a bedside expose in a SoCal hospital?
Just fyi, not everyone who chooses to decline the mrna vax is loony whack-job conspiracy theorist like Bohter. No rational person suspects that there are tracking devices in the vaccine.
But a rational person certainly can look at the data and conclude that the risk of COVID does not justify subjecting people under the age of 50 to a new vaccine technology for which we have no long term safety data.
It's hopeless, man. Talking about trade-offs and BigPharma fiduciary duty = Bohter. Like George W. Bush, we don't do nuance. I even posted Vinay Prasad's risk/reward calculations for those under 18 above, and those were based on wild-type variant. Delta is likely more contagious and less deadly.
My wife's fully-vaccinated-but-obese <40 year old friend just got out of the ER due to pericarditis from a virus that caused nausea and vomiting. She didn't say which virus. Maybe the doctors didn't say. Anyways, maybe her biggest problem is that she needs to lose weight.
"No rational person?"
Well, I dunno about that. It's surely true there are no long term studies on the vax. And maybe I'll feel those long term effects one day. It's a risk I'm willing to take to not die in the nearer term.
I prefer to look at it thusly:
A rational person can look at the number of people who have died of this sh!t, consider the people they know who have been affected by it - including long haul covid, and consider the fact that they want to try to minimize exposure to themselves, strangers and loved ones, oh, and consider that nearly all the hospitalizations and severe cases of covid are happening amongst the unvaxxed, and that person can conclude that it's worth the risk to get the vaccine. That is the conclusion I drew. Simple as that.
Yeah, lose weight, eat simple whole foods, work outside, have solid meaningful connections with family and community. Lessons from the Blue Zones.Anyways, maybe her biggest problem is that she needs to lose weight.
Technology is great, but nature is better.
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Good. I'm with you there, especially if you're in a high-risk category.
Read the Pfizer phase III trial. It was never tested to prevent infection and transmission, only disease and severe disease. It's a non-sterilizing vaccine, hence:
Walk us through your calculations. What are the odds of getting Delta and going to the hospital vs. the odds of getting the vaccine and having a side-effect? For instance, Vinay Prasad calculated the odds of a youth getting pericarditis from the vaccine to be 5x higher than getting it from wild-type. What calculations did you do for yourself?
Well, that is definitely simple.
LOL. Yeah. You're right. Never say never, huh?
I totally get that line of thinking. The only place I would feel ethically compelled to push back on it is for people under the age of 18 where the death rate due to COVID is comparable to the percentage of rational people who think there is a tracking chip in the mrna vaccine - so close to zero that its useful to think of it as zero.
And even then, I fully support a parents right, and empathize (in spite of disagreeing) with their decision to choose to give their kids the MRNA vaccine.
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I do mine in the bathtub with pitbulls, while fighting Mike Tyson.