Lev Parnas turns over thousands of pages of documents to impeachment investigators.....

[hal9000]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217211610114285574

yeah but they were investigating other corrupt people too. Remember that Trumby ran on the campaign promise of non-interventionism and Making Ukraine Great Again. MUGA.

 

[Phi1]

It was just locker room assassination talk. You know, like "grab her by the put$$y" or "throw her off a balcony". Harmless.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1217292317985529861

 

[Ifallalot]

I agree MAGA crowd won't care what comes out.

But in the time Nancy stalled, Bolton came forward and new documents surfaced in Dem's favor.

Public support to hear from witnesses is also around 60%.

So the facts can come out during the Senate trial. Or they can come out when potentially vulnerable R's are vying for re-election. After they voted to block witnesses.

It's the squishy middle, fence-sitters and habitually apathetic that need rallying, not MAGAts.

I still think voters are the only chance to remove him from office.

Look at your last sentence, you finally get it

Now stop the charade and the waste

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

Now stop the charade and the waste

Why? It pisses Trump voters off so hopefully more of them stroke out, and it impedes his dogshit agenda of bankrupting the country, handing it to the Christian Ayatollahs, and making us the Salafi Wahhabi's useful idiots.

Plus it probably doesn't help Mitch McConnell's chances of remaining Majority Leader.

I don't see the problem.

 

[Autoprax]

But isn't this thwarting trump a little?

You got to admit it's put him on the defensive.

 

[utoma]

Look at your last sentence, you finally get it

Now stop the charade and the waste

We knew all along that Trumpers will hold party over country, but that does not mean Democrats should not continue on their path.

Congress is constitutionally responsible to hold the president accountable, and that is what they are trying to do DESPITE republicans.

 

[hal9000]

So the WWIII story is officially old news.

Impeachment is the story of the week.

 

[Ifallalot]

Why? It pisses Trump voters off so hopefully more of them stroke out, and it impedes his dogshit agenda of bankrupting the country, handing it to the Christian Ayatollahs, and making us the Salafi Wahhabi's useful idiots.

Plus it probably doesn't help Mitch McConnell's chances of remaining Majority Leader.

I don't see the problem.

Things cost money. The government uses money that isn't theirs to do things. If they are going to use money, it should have results. This is already a foregone conclusion that there will not be results.

If you actually believe that Trump is attempting to bankrupt the country, you should be against things that cost the country more money for no results

 

[utoma]

Things cost money. The government uses money that isn't theirs to do things. If they are going to use money, it should have results. This is already a foregone conclusion that there will not be results.

If you actually believe that Trump is attempting to bankrupt the country, you should be against things that cost the country more money for no results

Please don't start talking about fiscal responsibility. The Republican party is all about spending when they are in power.

 

[Phi1]

Things cost money. The government uses money that isn't theirs to do things. If they are going to use money, it should have results. This is already a foregone conclusion that there will not be results.

If you actually believe that Trump is attempting to bankrupt the country, you should be against things that cost the country more money for no results

The cost associated with presidential golfing has far exceeded the cost of Mueller's investigation.

 

[utoma]

Mueller's investigation, while costing an estimate of $32-35 million, also saw the forfeiture of $42 million dollars of assets. So it's technically a net gain on the investigation for the government.

 

[Ifallalot]

Mueller's investigation, while costing an estimate of $32-35 million, also saw the forfeiture of $42 million dollars of assets. So it's technically a net gain on the investigation for the government.

"technically" a net gain. Nevermind it will never end up actually resolving within the same budget

And don't even get me started on what outright theft civil asset forfeiture is

 

[Ifallalot]

Please don't start talking about fiscal responsibility. The Republican party is all about spending when they are in power.

Both parties are

That's why both need to go

Your binary thinking is so cute

 

[Autoprax]

Things cost money. The government uses money that isn't theirs to do things. If they are going to use money, it should have results. This is already a foregone conclusion that there will not be results.

If you actually believe that Trump is attempting to bankrupt the country, you should be against things that cost the country more money for no results

Eliminate congress!

 

[hal9000]

Eliminate congress!

Trumby knows best. And he’s obviously going to live forever.

 

[Sharkbiscuit]

Things cost money. The government uses money that isn't theirs to do things. If they are going to use money, it should have results. This is already a foregone conclusion that there will not be results.

If you actually believe that Trump is attempting to bankrupt the country, you should be against things that cost the country more money for no results

This costs nothing relative to things money actually gets spent on. Your boy is running a trillion dollar deficit.

 

[mundus]

Just the fact that Trumptards give Trump a pass on the deficit while attacking Obama over it shows the complete hypocrisy of Trumps rubes.

 

[hal9000]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/15/lev-parnas-rudy-giuliani-have-demolished-trumps-claims-innocence/

Highlights:

Americans who have been wondering why President Trump has taken the extraordinary step of trying to block every document from being released to Congress in his impeachment inquiry need wonder no longer. The new documents released Tuesday evening by the House Intelligence Committee were devastating to Trump’s continuing — if shifting — defense of his Ukraine extortion scandal, just days before his impeachment trial is likely to begin in the Senate. These new documents demolish at least three key defenses to which Trump and his allies have been clinging: that he was really fighting corruption when he pressured Ukraine on matters related to the Biden family; that Hunter Biden should be called as a witness at the Senate impeachment trial; and that there’s no need for a real, honest-to-goodness trial in the Senate.


The most basic principles of constitutional law require relevant information, including documents and executive branch witnesses, to be turned over to Congress in an impeachment proceeding. Particularly because sitting presidents cannot be indicted, impeachment is the only immediate remedy we the people have against a lawless president. For that remedy to have any teeth, relevant information has to be provided. That’s why President James Polk said that, during impeachment, Congress could “penetrate into the most secret recesses of the Executive Departments … command the attendance of any and every agent of the Government, and compel them to produce all papers, public or private, official or unofficial.” No president, not even Richard Nixon, thought he could just say “no” to impeachment. That’s why the House added Article II to Trump’s impeachment: “Obstruction of Congress.” It was a response to an unprecedented attempt by a president to hide the truth.

The documents released Tuesday show what Trump has been so afraid of. For starters, they prove that his already-eyebrow-raising claim to have been fighting corruption in Ukraine was bogus. Notes taken by Lev Parnas — who is an associate of Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani and is now facing federal criminal charges — show what his and Giuliani’s mission was when they got in touch with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky: “get Zalensky to Announce that the Biden case will Be Investigated.” Look hard at the real goal here: not to prompt an investigation of Hunter Biden, but to score an announcement of a Biden investigation. Pursuing an announcement, rather than an investigation, makes sense only if Trump’s objective was to dirty the reputation of Joe Biden, a leading political rival.

Both of us served in high-ranking Justice Department positions; we’ve never heard of an investigation that is kept from the Justice Department, given to a private lawyer and then publicly announced — investigations work best when done in secret. If Trump, as he has long claimed, was truly interested in pursuing anti-corruption efforts in the bizarrely specific form of a single investigation of a single American citizen, then he would have wanted an actual investigation. Instead, he was fixated on the public announcement of one — which, if anything, would have harmed the investigation by tipping off its subject. The public announcement would have helped only one thing: Trump’s personal political prospects.


But that’s not to say there’s nothing to learn at a genuine Senate impeachment trial — which, as the word “trial” suggests, features actual evidence and witnesses. That’s the third point emerging from the documents released Tuesday night. One of those documents shows how important it might be to have such witnesses testify before the Senate. The document is a letter from Giuliani to Zelensky when he was Ukraine’s president-elect. It begins: “I am private counsel to President Donald J. Trump. Just to be precise, I represent him as a private citizen, not as President of the United States.” The letter then requested a meeting with Zelensky. This letter is a devastating indication of what has been clear to many all along: that Trump’s pursuit of an announcement that Ukraine was looking into Biden was an abuse of his public office for personal gain. That’s what this letter sure seems to be saying. And it makes clear that what was afoot had nothing to do with law enforcement or Biden’s possible corruption — it wasn’t a request from the official “President of the United States” but from a “private citizen.

The letter is so damning to Trump that we can foresee the president claiming during an impeachment trial that Giuliani was lying — back then, and even still today. That’s where Senate testimony can prove crucial. There’s a reason the Supreme Court has called live testimony, including cross-examination, “the greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth.” Put Giuliani on the witness stand — and Trump, too, if he has the guts. And let the truth come out.

 

[Ifallalot]

Just the fact that Trumptards give Trump a pass on the deficit while attacking Obama over it shows the complete hypocrisy of Trumps rubes.

Who's giving Trump a pass on the deficit?

BTW the deficit isn't Trump or Obama's fault, its the dickbags in Congress

Middle school Civics, use it

 

[mundus]

Who's giving Trump a pass on the deficit?

BTW the deficit isn't Trump or Obama's fault, its the dickbags in Congress

Middle school Civics, use it

Wrong, how about Trumps tax cuts to the rich and corporations along with increasing defense spending, and for the record rightys attacked Obama constantly about the deficit, now it is Ok because Trump.