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Just curious...
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Really? Perhaps. But I am not sure ifallalot is aware that the Corps (literally) wrote the guidance on Soil Vapor Extraction and Bioventing for instance.bird. said:You're misreading his post.Kento said:Wait a minute. You are going to say the EPA is full of bureaucratic waste but then go on to tout the USACE?!ifallalot said:
Have you ever worked on an environmental project via the Corps?
It's just a shame that a garden variety 40 page workplan has to be an overly redundant 800 page behemoth due to way too much bureaucratic input.
He basically said he's in favor of getting rid of both the USACE and the EPA both I believe. (I disagree on the EPA at the very least.)Kento said:Really? Perhaps. But I am not sure ifallalot is aware that the Corps (literally) wrote the guidance on Soil Vapor Extraction and Bioventing for instance.bird. said:You're misreading his post.Kento said:Wait a minute. You are going to say the EPA is full of bureaucratic waste but then go on to tout the USACE?!ifallalot said:
Have you ever worked on an environmental project via the Corps?
It's just a shame that a garden variety 40 page workplan has to be an overly redundant 800 page behemoth due to way too much bureaucratic input.
The problem is the EPA doesn't punish polluters enough. Not even close.bird. said:He basically said he's in favor of getting rid of both the USACE and the EPA both I believe. (I disagree on the EPA at the very least.)Kento said:Really? Perhaps. But I am not sure ifallalot is aware that the Corps (literally) wrote the guidance on Soil Vapor Extraction and Bioventing for instance.bird. said:You're misreading his post.Kento said:Wait a minute. You are going to say the EPA is full of bureaucratic waste but then go on to tout the USACE?!ifallalot said:
Have you ever worked on an environmental project via the Corps?
It's just a shame that a garden variety 40 page workplan has to be an overly redundant 800 page behemoth due to way too much bureaucratic input.
It isn't creative accounting. It is basic accounting. An organization can do more than 1 thing. Funders of that organization want their money used for their priorities. Therefore they have to do cost allocation. Google: 2 CFR 200.405 Allocable costs.ifallalot said:
Time and materials and space cost, and electicity and every cost associated with abortion gets charged to their unrestricted funds. The federal funds are only used for activities that are allowable under that federal award. Things like providing screening, testing etc. By defunding Planned Parenthood (stopping federal funds) you aren't stopping abortions because they don't use federal funds for abortion anyway. You are cutting their funding for many of the basic health services they provide to low income people. (the allowable cost under the federal award from HHS)
Indirect costs are another discussion however if you think something as simple as cost allocation is creative accounting I'm not going to go there.
The bottom line is that federal funds aren't used for abortion. That is a fact. (unless someone does something illegal) But the reality is that organizations that receive federal funds (at least organizations like planned parenthood) get monitored and audited endlessly so if someone was doing something illegal it would result in disallowed costs. Because PP is under such scrutiny they don't mess around.
Again, why is it that fox news and other right wing media lie to their viewers? You should be asking yourself that now that you know the facts.
Yes. Exactlybird. said:He basically said he's in favor of getting rid of both the USACE and the EPA both I believe. (I disagree on the EPA at the very least.)Kento said:Really? Perhaps. But I am not sure ifallalot is aware that the Corps (literally) wrote the guidance on Soil Vapor Extraction and Bioventing for instance.bird. said:You're misreading his post.Kento said:Wait a minute. You are going to say the EPA is full of bureaucratic waste but then go on to tout the USACE?!ifallalot said:
Have you ever worked on an environmental project via the Corps?
It's just a shame that a garden variety 40 page workplan has to be an overly redundant 800 page behemoth due to way too much bureaucratic input.
Boiled down, I was saying the USACE destroys more than the EPA protects
Yay! You found me!ElOgro said:
Abortion's such a weird issue. The places that want to outlaw it have almost none as it is. There are only like 4 places in all of Kansas to get an abortion but man is it an important voter issue there still.
I'm glad California isn't Kansas. In fact, I wish California would set up a fund to bring women into the state just so they can terminate their pregnancy if they want. I'd rather pay for that than a high-speed train to nowhere.