HPSB 2034

[freeride76]

Mate, we've had tons and tons of innovation in materials and that will continue.

I had a full carbon tail flex-tail, V-stringered, custom flex board almost 2 decades ago.

I think we are asking the wrong question.

Why, decades after all these materials have been utilised are the elite still riding PU/PE for the foreseeable future?

3 fins, pointy nose, similar plan shape.

 

[tedshred]

If varial is so durable then how do you explain why they all end up looking look golf balls?

I dont give a sh!t about pressure dings. Just that board keeps its livelyness.

 

[Retropete]

In small waves, and unbroken waves, it increases performance potential.

Interestingly (or not) Adam Bennetts riding the foil is an ex-pro surfer who is now a foil wizard.

 

[Leonardo]

I dont give a sh!t about pressure dings. Just that board keeps its livelyness.

I actually love pressure dings. Feel way more stable when I step on a pressure ding. I'd even say that brand new boards kinda suck in the way that they don't have pressure dings.

 

[casa_mugrienta]

I think we are asking the wrong question.

Why, decades after all these materials have been utilised are the elite still riding PU/PE for the foreseeable future?

All around reliability and ease of construction.

It always feels "right" and thus removes a variable.

Even when guys retire from pro level surfing they stay with PU. For a really good reason.

Because it's Ol' Reliable.

Whatever happened to John John and Dark Farts?

 

[freeride76]

Not reliable enough handling.

Thats the problem with increasing reactivity in the materials, they become less reliable.

 

[One-Off]

Foiling is not surfing mate- it's a different thing.

I'll take physics over mindset any day of the week.

To me surfing is riding waves. If they’re foiling on a wave it’s surfing.

I admit readily I am no scientist. I’ve never formally studied physics. But a quick google tells me Archimedes speaks to displacement of a resting object in water. Do you think that the principle in play when an AC 75 is going 45 knots is displacement?

 

[freeride76]

No.

We also have to paddle into waves and around the line-up.

Surfing is subject to both hydrostatic and hydrodynamic principles.

Unlike foiling, unlike yacht racing, unlike tow surfing.

 

[santacruzin]

I have a step up coming soon that is very similar to past boards and just ordered a custom of a board first made in 2004 or so for Bobby. I ordered it with glass-ons. I also ordered an OG Flyer. How old is that design?! Maybe I'm going backwards?

I have been eyeing an OG flyer!

 

[freeride76]

Timmy Patterson used the file off an old design for SITD and made it to the final 4.

We are largely talking about matters of taste, not objective performance.

 

[tedshred]

I think materials are the next major innovation to be had. Some sort of a shrink wrap glassing rather than manual layering glass, saturating, sanding and hot coat would significantly reduce cost.

 

[casa_mugrienta]

Timmy Patterson used the file off an old design for SITD and made it to the final 4.

We are largely talking about matters of taste, not objective performance.

Probably.

So above all, is it all about rocker?

Would be interesting seeing the rockers of all the boards that made it to the final in each episode.

Lay the files over each other and see how they are balanced.

Would they be all over the place or trend towards 1 style of the 4 types of rocker?

Then compare to previous episodes.

 

[Maz]

http://instagr.am/p/C4ovHxzSRck/

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

http://instagr.am/p/C4ovHxzSRck/

Glassed on fins. The wave of the future!

 

[GromsDad]

I wonder if anyone has tried arranging mini-foils in place of traditional fins. I remember seeing fins 15 years ago that had a little foil on them to create lift but how about a whole board built on the idea of being free of its traditional rails and riding on three or four mini-foils?

 

[nolibos]

Maybe a glassed in blue tooth speaker, so I can listen to tunes in the line up.

 

[Goofy_Footed]

Built in selfie sticks and waterproof phone holders. F yeah!

 

[Duffy LaCoronilla]

I wonder if anyone has tried arranging mini-foils in place of traditional fins. I remember seeing fins 15 years ago that had a little foil on them to create lift but how about a whole board built on the idea of being free of its traditional rails and riding on three or four mini-foils?

A problem that would have to be addressed is when you lean over. Let’s say you have 3 foil fins. If all are fixed and at similar depths then when you lean over 1 or more will be out of the water.

 

[GromsDad]

A problem that would have to be addressed is when you lean over. Let’s say you have 3 foil fins. If all are fixed and at similar depths then when you lean over 1 or more will be out of the water.

Not if the mini-foils are pushed out to the rails. Think of a traditional thruster or quad setup except perhaps the front foils would be closer to your front foot.

 

[freeride76]

I do LMAO when bro-brahs say "it's muh-terials, thats where the innovation will come from!"

Where da fcuk you been for the last 2 decades?

We've had all kinds of core materials- from differing blends of EPS, PU, no core at all. Every different arrangement of centre and parabolic stringer you can imagine of all differing types of material.

All kinds of materials wrapping those cores from balsa, high density foams, every kind of plastic material mankind has devised, every type of glassing material you can imagine from fibreglass to hemp, flax, carbon, wool, wood, even metals, now basalt etc etc.
Vag bagging, resin infusions, differing types of expoxies, etc etc.


For a pissant little cottage industry there's been an incredible amount of materials innovation.

You think there is some incredible new material that hasn't been trialed yet?

Go read the periodic table and tell me what it is.

Yet here we are with the state of the art still centre stringered PU/PE.

Those with long memories might recall Greg Loehr loudly and repeatedly claiming (20 years or so ago) anyone still making PU/PE boards would be a hobbyist mowing lawns for a living.