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Hawaii- Done
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The absurdity of importing shiploads of diesel fuel from across the Pacific Ocean to be burnt to generate electricity rather than utilising Hawaii's abundant free resources of wind and solar energy.
I guess the folks in Hawaii that complain about wind turbines being "ugly", prefer the current fossil fuel electricity solution.
Hot and inland doesn't apply to anywhere that's not the high desert. I have China Lake/Ridgecrest time under my belt. That place is hot and inland.
What I was getting at is that California is basically a suburban flophouse for everyone on the planet who can make it here. Suburbs were thrown up hastily for all these people who brought more people which necessitated more suburbs. I only welcome Hawai'ians here b/c they've had it worse than me in this regard. In fact, my neighbors are Hawai'ian. Everyone else can kick rocks.
I dated a girl from Ridgecrest when I was in college. She hated it and moved to the coast on her 18th birthday.
It's an interesting place.
Super smart engineers that all work for the same employer. Everyone knows everyone. Super super hot in the summer. Top secret work going on.
The plus side is it is literally 40 minutes from the start of the Sierras. You can be to mammoth in 2.5 hours. If you like dirt bikes than it's like living on the North Shore.
Like Iceland, which generates ginormous amounts of electricity from geothermal energy (aka drilling a hole in the ground and then putting a pipe in it to harness steam and spin a turbine) the Big Island could generate enough electricity for the entire state of Hawaii.
Iceland Geothermal
Instead, shiploads of diesel fossil fuel are sent from California to be burnt in generators that date from the 1970's to generate electricity?
They have geothermal on the Big Island already. Their facilitiy dodged a bullet during the last Kilauea eruption I recall.
Also, moving electricity from island to island is not gonna happen.
"Geothermal energy a 'no brainer' for Hawaii" - Hawai‘i Groundwater & Geothermal Resources Center
One of the most abundant renewable energy resources in the Hawaiian Islands is geothermal energy, but due to the eruption of the Kilauea volcano on Hawaii’s Big Island in early May and the subsequent shutdown of the state’s only geothermal power plant, Puna Geothermal Venture, its future is...
www.higp.hawaii.edu
For 4 months in 09' I worked a feasability project for installing solar panels on the roof of all the large Kaiser health care facilities, starting with the Moanalua medical center. Due to the high electric rates and non stop sunshine/UV, , the payback was absurdly fast. Just stupid the islands haven't invested heavily into massive solar and wind.
And during that biz stay surfed my ass off. Got there early April to score late season Sunset, then when the souths started hitting, had endless after work and weekend sessions at various lineups on the south shore, which I had never surfed before, having stayed on the NS during late fall or early winter during my typical HI trip.
Fook those waves are fun.
Did anything come of the study?
The question is always the same: who pays for the new infrastructure?
The energy needs to be stored. The constant sunshine is great but it doesn't help when nighttime rolls around. HECO is on the hook for the demands. There's currently no way to store solar generated energy on a mass scale for use at a later time.
Another part is the monopoly that HECO has. They lose money when you're not drawing from the grid during the day. However, they still need to maintain infrastructure to power the demand for the island at night. So it's a difficult problem to solve. But, HECO CEO makes millions so I doubt they're interested in figuring out the solution right now.
Also, helped a friend install an illegal solar system. It's incredibly easy and literally plug and play for the most part. Materials are like $5K for a household system. Lol. Heco doesn't want you to know that part.
Another part is the monopoly that HECO has. They lose money when you're not drawing from the grid during the day. However, they still need to maintain infrastructure to power the demand for the island at night. So it's a difficult problem to solve. But, HECO CEO makes millions so I doubt they're interested in figuring out the solution right now.
Also, helped a friend install an illegal solar system. It's incredibly easy and literally plug and play for the most part. Materials are like $5K for a household system. Lol. Heco doesn't want you to know that part.
Some kinda bug going around. I've been down since yesterday with a sore throat, heavy fatigue and some muscle soreness. Couple friends reported the same thing.
Completed and payback faster than the initial projected return on investment. At the time bulk diesel fuel feeding the island gensets was around $2.50 a gallon, which determines kw cost. Diesel has steadily risen since then to over 4.00 a gal delivered to port. No brainer.
And a big win for the med center is not just the drastically reduced electrical costs - if the island ever does go dark, solar will generate enough power to maintain critical services, vs sweating bullets that the centers emergency generators will run through it's 5 days of on-site fuel storage before power is restored.
Way to pay for an Island ramp-up of solar and wind would be through a vote approved bond, just as local roads, firehouses, public owned utilities, ocal libraries, etc are built in all the other states. To sell the bond, need to sell the return on investment to the people who would vote and bear the tax cost, with would also likely also include a bond tariff on tourist renting cars, hotels, etc.
The Moanalua roof.
I just spent 3 days sick in bed, I'm calling it the flu. I had fever, cough, fatigue and a killer headache. I started feeling better yesterday but it will probably be a couple more days before I feel well enough to get in the water.
Most of the CT, including John John declining to take part in the Triple Crown this year. Among the women just BLSJ, Gabriella Bryan, and Carissa Moore. Mens it's just Ethan Ewing, Yago Dora, and Seth Moniz.
I'd like to know too tbh. Maybe most of the CT doesn't want to spend another few weeks on Oahu?