my MC shiva with the hard edge all the way up is one of my all time favorite boards
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Have you ridden any boards with hard edges? Inquiring minds and all.Nope, gross
OK, I'm just thinking out loud here. The release function of a hard edge and a rolled hard edge as we progress from the wide point towards the tail, I get it. The hard edge provides release. The tucked hard edge provides release with control. It's a compromise. The rear of the board is about release and/or control. Where I have a hard time is what is happening FORWARD of the wide point. Is that release up say a foot from the nose? It's water entry isn't it? The water is coming in, into contact with the board. Seems like that is water entry, not water release? Isn't that a different thing?The mantra is that hard edges release water.
didnt like it when it was bumpy, always felt like the nose was catching.
Aleutian juice boards have that. I haven’t ridden enough to think if it’s good or bad, just think they’re ugly.Have you ridden any boards with hard edges? Inquiring minds and all.
As usual all of what you wrote makes sense. After riding the recently acquired DVS 7' carbon rocket fish a couple of times it had me thinking I should order another one from Dick before he hangs up the planer. I'd order it with a wider nose to make it a touch better wave catcher so could extend its useability.OK, I'm just thinking out loud here. The release function of a hard edge and a rolled hard edge as we progress from the wide point towards the tail, I get it. The hard edge provides release. The tucked hard edge provides release with control. It's a compromise. The rear of the board is about release and/or control. Where I have a hard time is what is happening FORWARD of the wide point. Is that release up say a foot from the nose? It's water entry isn't it? The water is coming in, into contact with the board. Seems like that is water entry, not water release? Isn't that a different thing?
When I was a much better test pilot I used to order my boards with full length edges. I liked the way they felt going through rail turns. There was a hot-knife-through-butter carving effect that I loved. Eventually I felt like hard rails in the nose, in chop, in bumpy mush, that hard edge forward could gain me some awkward moments. Recovery from moves far out on the periphery of my capability was more difficult. With the hard edges, things had to be more perfect. Both my technique and the water surface. Hard edges all the way up the board in glassy surf with some speed, primarily focusing on rail surfing, love it. The soft forward edge, up where the nose of the board was entering the water as I went through a turn, in the end it felt more forgiving. I used to think I would like two versions of the same board. One with soft forward rails for junk and one with hard edges all the way for good surf. Seemed excessive.
Seems to I remember Griff telling me the forward soft rail/forgiveness thing was bullshit.
And that's why nobody rides that stuff today.Pretty much everything from the 70s to late 80s had hard edges from nose to tail.