I just listened to this. Unreal first hand account. So heavy.This is just one guys story of many, but it’s nuts…
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Fires in Maui
- Thread starter b.r.
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Im guessing the insurance companies would know. They’re the ones with the database of land vs structure values, not sure if prop tax info could be used as well, but you’d largely base it on recent sales for comps.
build cost is area and current rates, land is appraised value minus rebuild, no?
in coastal California the land is very easily worth $1mil.
Untouched.
Original all wood house, except the owners replaced the asphalt roof with one made out of heavy-gauge metal.
They also unknowingly improved the property’s odds of survival, having lined the ground with stones up to the drip line of the roof, and cut down foliage that was up against the outside walls.
Original all wood house, except the owners replaced the asphalt roof with one made out of heavy-gauge metal.
They also unknowingly improved the property’s odds of survival, having lined the ground with stones up to the drip line of the roof, and cut down foliage that was up against the outside walls.
Same. I couldn't stop placing myself alongside this guy as he traced his steps - it's harrowing. It happened so fast. I can't imagine what it would be like to see the town bursting into flames all around you, seeing and hearing people succumbing to the fire in real time. So fucking gnarly.
Ready for Air Force One ====== Got a really good sign made up ======= maybe I'll make the national news
It's a tough call. I see both sides of it with so much of the local economy based on tourism. Obv Lahaina was a major hub for Maui tourism but there is the whole rest of the island and plenty of other resorts. During the first lull in the pandemic we went to the big island and stayed at the Fairmont for a week. It was my first resort vacation in forever, because of the rental car shortage at the time we committed to a resort trip and I sat beach side in a cabana for a week reading, sipping frozen drinks and snorkelling. We only left the resort once and it was unexpectedly perfect. Part of me says that unless FEMA is buying out these resorts for the displaced why is it insensitive to go? Unless tourists are competing with the recovery operations and the displaced victims for resources I think supporting the economy is an important concern. Obv Lahaina won't be a destination any time soon. But if a tourist is sitting poolside elsewhere on the island they're still contributing to the local economy and the continued employment of the people who work there. It feels a bit like a double edged sword to not give your business to places there that are fully operational and not overlooking Lahaina. There has to be a respectful way for the tourist industry to go about business without being insensitive. Seems kinda like cutting off your nose to spite your face to ask the whole island to be closed off to tourism out of respect.
The one thing I'd be very careful of is access to the burn zone for outsiders. Even goodhearted things like making a memorial of the Banyan tree should be very carefully considered. I feel like looky-loos from tourist who want to see disaster porn is where things can really get ugly.
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It's the kinda drama and tension that producers of dystopian thriller dramas like "Last of Us" wish they could capture. Just unreal. I can't even begin to imagine.
My gf is an avid listener of The Daily. She also gets nightmares from this kinda thing. I listened on my morning dog walk and when I got home she was still in bed. I woke her up and the first thing I told her was "Don't listen to todays Daily"
Probably 10 to 1 land to structure value for the average home if we are talking about the original late 50s early 60s single wall builds that are prevalent throughout the islands. Remodeled or new construction probably 5 to 1.
This is just based on the home I have on Oahu.
They need to flood the area with money. Give people the ability to thrive while their town is being rebuilt. This would generate optimism and be a huge disincentive for people to sell out to carpetbagger developers. I would love to see FEMA lap up every available condo in Kaanapali for the next year, up towards Honokowai too. And give the people spending money. I know a lot of residents north of Lahaina depend on tourism but those locals will spend and many people who worked in the Lahaina Tourist Industry can easily gain employment in the Lahaina Rebuild Industry. And IMO Kihei and Wailea tourism is probably OK.
by asphalt im assuming comp. which generally has a class "A" fire rating so i dont see how a metal roof made the difference. houses tend to burn from the inside out. embers blown into vents and openings, heat igniting window curtains, etc
or was the roofing in the entire town literally just hot mop?
There was not one drop of sincerity in Biden's speech in Lahaina. Pitiful!
Working in Kailua so I stopped by the HIC there. Talked to the boss.
He said the third batch of Maui Strong tees arrive tomorrow and those are going into the shops Wednesday or Thursday. A couple folks asked.
I asked about the surfboar drive. He said they want to wait a couple of weeks for body recoveries to be finished. Then they’ll take boar donation at any of their shops here to ship to Maui.
He said the third batch of Maui Strong tees arrive tomorrow and those are going into the shops Wednesday or Thursday. A couple folks asked.
I asked about the surfboar drive. He said they want to wait a couple of weeks for body recoveries to be finished. Then they’ll take boar donation at any of their shops here to ship to Maui.
Time to build a gallows and measure the necks of public officials:
