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No one implied that it did.divorce doesn't always infer fatherlessness
how much of your 20.3% is mom-initiated because the husband isn't living up81.5% of single parent households are headed by women. Of the single mothers, 50% of them were never married, 29% of them are divorced and 21% are either separated or widowed. 70% of divorces are initiated by the wife.
50% - Never married
20.3% - Divorced, mom-initiated (.70 x .29 = .203)
14.7% - Separated/widowed, mom-initiated (.70 * .21 = .147)
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85% of single moms are there by choice, less whatever percentage are actually widowed.
Sorry/not sorry
pointing to red states with a high divorce rate and trying to equate thatNo one implied that it did.
That was a failed gotcha by someone trying to make some dumb point about conservatives. Probably munduspointing to red states with a high divorce rate and trying to equate that
with fatherlessness, the core point being made, is disingenuous
You have your priorities in life, and I have mine. My family is important to me, so I have lived my life accordingly.This.
Also, a lot of the screeching about “traditional family” comes from the people who are stuck in unhappy relationships and who don’t have the courage to change their circumstances.
Which circles back to their favorite feeling - spitefulness. GDaddy talks about eternal adolescence and how terrible it is to just go surfing and be happy.
Everybody should be miserable in relationships just like they are because that’s what real men do.
How does a child benefit exactly growing up with miserable parents who don’t get along?
You're engaging in FF-level creative reading with your last. I explicitly excluded the widows due to not having the stat for how many there actually are.how much of your 20.3% is mom-initiated because the husband isn't living up
to their end of the bargain?
"widowed"..."by choice"
ahahahahaha
Is that the wife makes the husband so miserable that he offs himself"widowed"..."by choice"
ahahahahaha
That's fine but you're negatively judging my priorities and imply that my family is not important to me and that I'm a terrible father, so I judge yours, which in my view are insane. To marry someone because of their "familial ties"?You have your priorities in life, and I have mine. My family is important to me, so I have lived my life accordingly.
Again, you judge children of single mothers and want to cut support for them.Just the fact that I can describe a long and happy marriage and my affinity for my kids and then you somehow jump at the chance to interpret that as a dull and meaningless life speaks to the difference in personal values between us.
How am I making your point?You're just making my point for me. My family life makes me and mine happy. My kids are continuing the examples I followed from my parents and which I have set for them. You seem to have hated your's. I would anticipate your kid will be more likely to follow your example than to break with it. You/yours wouldn't trade places with me/mine and we won't be trading places with you.
LULZWomen control which men they engage with and under what terms. When women operate under the assumption that the state will take care of them and their children they are prone to making different decisions.
God forbid that you teach your kids that being a xenophobe, racist, misogynist is a bad thing.You're going to be waiting a long time before any of mine become SJWs. We don't raise tofu bleeders.
That's fair enough - I injected the "morally superior" element because I see so much social commentary about single moms being brave and fierce and virtuous and it's the men who are invariably the assholes of society.you're right. your framing of the stats was so troubling that I did not fully read the
entirety of the post and missed your caveat re: widows.
there is still A LOT to unpack...
you can chip away at your "there by choice" argument at each statistical cohort;
do they not marry because the man cheated or fell off the wagon? did they initiate
divorce because the dude turned out to be a terrible spouse/father? is the onus for
unpredictable outcomes always placed on the woman?
why are single parent households 80+% headed by women? the court system does
NOT favor men....so how much of that is the legal framework predisposing the numbers
towards women?
I have no clue why you inserted the "acting morally superior to men" tidbit at the end.
were we talking about morality here? what impact does morality and your moralizing
over the problem have relative to the multitudinous socio-economic factors that also
come in to play?