Says the guy who "doesn't remember" what was said by our government and media about the vaccine
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Drew Brophy - in ICU w/ COVID fighting for his life
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I do think it's disingenuous for someone (not necessarily you, BTW) to claim that something is failing because it's not absolute when it was never intended to be absolute.Then you are either forgetful and/or willfully ignorant to the actual messaging. Fauci and Biden overpromised the results of the virus. See the link above and this:
Fauci: Vaccinated people become ‘dead ends’ for the coronavirus
Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Biden, said during a discussion on Sunday about the Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) decision to drop mask recommendati…thehill.com
Plus if there wasn't at least an implicit notion that the vaccine would prevent you from infecting others, then why were so many millions of people so rabid about the health choices of others
UH, see my link above where Fauci calls the vaxxed "dead ends" for the virus.
So it's disingenuous for me to pull up actual statements that were spoken as truth and proved to later be wrong
I also never said the vaccines don't work and I'm not an anti vaxxer. I voluntarily took the vaccine. What I'm pointing out is how wrong the government got it, and that a bunch of people acted like sanctimonious assholes over the health choices of others for basically no reason at all.
I definitely don't remember Fauci saying that but there it is. Like I said it always seemed pretty obvious to me that it was a mitigation technique and not a full stop. That's how other virus vaccines (flu shots) tend to work. I'm definitely not trying to gaslight anyone.
It has always made sense to me that if the severity of someones illness is reduced, i.e. the virus rages at a muted level, then the viruses ability to spread from that person to the next is also reduced. So yeah, if enough people were vaccinated it makes sense that it would slow the spread. I'm not an infectious disease specalist or a viruologist so maybe that's a faulty premise but just because the vaccine doesnt stop COVID dead in its tracks doesn't mean it isn't advantagous for a society to be vaccinated. In absence of any real irrefutable reason to not be vaccinated (conspiracy theories and other bs about 'the jab' don't hold water) it's pretty hard to argue against it. Although, as evidenced by this thread, we all love to hear ourselves talk.
He explained…
This explanation doesn’t explain a dead end.
I guess you’re easily duped by the media when you want to be. That’s what they count on, in fact.
I never claimed to not remember. Again this continues to show your poor credibility.Says the guy who "doesn't remember" what was said by our government and media about the vaccine
Keep reading: "“When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. “In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. "
Fauci's. Exact. Words.
How can I be duped by the media when they reported exactly what he said
Speaking of moving the goalposts, the CDC-recommended number of COVID jabs is up around 5-7 now. I’ve lost count.
Didn't mask mandates persist for longer than needed because of widespread refusal to get vaccinated not because of the inefficay of the vaccine?
No. Mask mandates were about optics more than anything. Their efficacy was minimal.
Because they highlight “dead end”, and even put it in the title. He says “very, very low likelihood” of transmission with asymptomatic vaccination. That’s not literally a dead end. Is it true? I don’t know. You’ve shown nothing to disprove it.Keep reading: "“When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. “In other words, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there are a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. "
Fauci's. Exact. Words.
How can I be duped by the media when they reported exactly what he said
Never forgetting mean never and never is forever.
Neither time nor space can impede on that noble act of never forgetting.
Never forgetting can happen everywhere:
In the foil section, in the surf doc section, in the classified section.
Never means everywhere, forever all at once.
It's not my job to show consistency and continuity in his statements. Fauci made them, not me. I'm pointing out that he was wrong with both of those statements.
To get into pubic schools in all states, these are the Immunizations required for Kindergarten through 12th Grade
so those vaccines to diseases that used to kill millions of kids a year are ok, but covid vax bad. Just more pretzel logic from the idiot right.
| DTaP | Polio | Varicella | MMR | Hepatitis B | Hepatitis A | Hib | Tdap |
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so those vaccines to diseases that used to kill millions of kids a year are ok, but covid vax bad. Just more pretzel logic from the idiot right.
No, you haven't shown that he was wrong with both statements. His statements are obviously somewhat contradictory but it would only have taken slightly different phrasing to make them congruent. If he would have said something like "all but a dead end" for instance, that would be consistent.
That there is a "very, very low likelihood” of transmission with asymptomatic vaccination hasn't been shown to be true or false by anything presented so far. I've assumed that there is no benefit from vaccination in regard to transmission. It's actually news to me that there may be a benefit.
Not sure if I'm interpreting Faucian claims correctly but he seems to say that if someone has been vaccinated and is also asymptomatic they will have a very very low likelihood of infecting others with covid. For example, I was vaccinated and tested positive for covid at one time but experienced flu-like symptoms so that would seem to mean that I wasn't at a very very low risk of infecting others. I may have been at a high risk of infecting others, at the time I was experiencing symptoms or whatever. It may be possible, on the other hand, that at some point in the last few years, after I had been vaccinated, that I contracted covid and experienced no symptoms, that I was asymptomatic, and at that time I was at a very very low risk of infecting others with covid. It's also not clear how different variants of the virus are included in Fauci's claims.
The fact that the majority of Omicron cases were with people who were vaccinated is proof that the "dead end" and "unlikely" statements were wildly false.
No matter how he said it, it still would've been wrong!
Wrong. Like I said, most Omicron infections were among the vaccinated.
BTW I watched the video. It's full of empty promises from politicians related to what I mentioned above and wacky statements from celebs and media figures. I can see why it was so upsetting for you!