really? i could see maybe after 20 or 30 years but i doubt starting is anywhere close to 6 figures except for maybe exclusive suburbs like hillsboro or atherton etc.All of those jobs you mentioned are 6 figure + careers in California
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really? i could see maybe after 20 or 30 years but i doubt starting is anywhere close to 6 figures except for maybe exclusive suburbs like hillsboro or atherton etc.All of those jobs you mentioned are 6 figure + careers in California
Right, I'm saying they should incentivize people to apply by paying them a wage they can survive on rather than dangling this one time bonus out there, with hopes that they can go back to paying too low later. The one time bonus thing is going to lead to the results they've gotten. People take the money and run as soon as they can. If you pay a decent wage they're much more likely to stay.Huh? No, not really. It’s an incentive to encourage people to apply. I’m sure most of these places are offering a higher than usual starting pay as well.
That said, I do agree that restaurants and have gotten away with low wages for too long. However the blame for that also falls on us, as in the consumer who expects food to be cheaper and complains every time restaurants raise their prices.
60's & 70's young Man ... when "real drugs" were around and not laced with ... death.Yeah I started partying really young and really hard working in restaurants. Late night, wearing your work uniform after a shift, and out with a few coworkers- that was a license to drink in virtually any bar, even at 14 years old
man the 90s were epic
My identity isn't a secret, pretty easy to figure out who I am. I work in software, was doing remote for a few years before the pandemic started and kinda made my peace with not making baller SF money due to the flexibility it gave me. Now though, none of those startups give a fuck that you never plan on coming into their office.What kind of work?
I'm not asking for you to give away y our secret identity.
Just curious where you would get the 50% raise.
Loved driving my moped down to the waterfront in the AM listening to Boz Skags on my CD player, grab a baguette and coffee, smoke a joint and watch the morning begin. Huahine, was my choice of relaxation. Pape'ete, for the continuous daily mur mur vibe ~It will be like French Polynesia, where French government welfare benefits are more lucrative than what people get paid for actually working.
The only people that work are salaried expatriates from France in the visitor industry and ambitious ethnic Chinese, who wake up at 3am to bake the baguettes in Pape'ete.
Back when coke was a Coke and a joint was a place to hang out60's & 70's young Man ... when "real drugs" were around and not laced with ... death.
I aid same thing, mistake, until I talked to multiple owners and found if it's not upfront $$, not even interested. Just another cost. Too many people in Central OR seem to be getting free shet so no need work li'dat cruise um!Good thread.
Seems a very wide variety of factors playing into all this.
Their mistake is paying the sign on bonus upon hiring.
Needs to be paid after month's work or something similar.
Also, good point on the tlack of op class candidates - I had been wondering the same thing myself as many of the freeloader types are now having to seek work.
My industry is about to experience something similar as the Boomer retirement tsunami is in progress...meanwhile plenty of new graduate RNs have been kept out of clinical areas and away from skills lab settings for their entire school career due to COVID liability. Not the ideal candidates.
Saw the other day where one local system is offering a $20K sign on bonus.
YOLO timing checks outI changed jobs about a month ago for a 50% salary increase.
When I moved to LA two years ago there was talk on the NPR about and local LA rags/blogs about how we might have reached a saturation point wrt restaurants. Not that many have closed permanently due to Covid. In LA the restaurants that are the most "instagram-able" are back by investors with very deep pockets.I think the demand for restaurants has dropped significantly and it's easier to blame labor shortage or to over exert your business and blame labor shortage than to say that you're restaurant isn't profitable any more.
I think there were too many restaurants pre pandemic (in Hawaii any way) and people cooked at home for a year and liked it (or liked saving money) and now don't see the point in getting takeout or eating at fancy restaurants as often.
Take if from people in mfg or electronics, remote s/w development is even easier to send overseas.My identity isn't a secret, pretty easy to figure out who I am. I work in software, was doing remote for a few years before the pandemic started and kinda made my peace with not making baller SF money due to the flexibility it gave me. Now though, none of those startups give a fook that you never plan on coming into their office.
Companies in Portland, Denver,. Austin, Pittsburgh etc are screwed if they aren't taking a long hard look at their comp.
These restaurants were anchor businesses in a lot of strip malls. Now that they're closing and retail is having trouble keeping stuff on shelves causing people to buy more online, what do we do with the commercial real estate? All these jobs may be unimportant to you or me, but they were important to the people who had them.Remember early in the pandemic when people were making their own sourdough (which probably sucked) and eating frozen eggplant parm from costco (which is amazingly good) and now we are like hey we have a new baseline on what is good enough food, sowe don't need overpriced, mediocre restaurants any more.
@afoafTake if from people in mfg or electronics, remote s/w development is even easier to send overseas.
These restaurants were anchor businesses in a lot of strip malls. Now that they're closing and retail is having trouble keeping stuff on shelves causing people to buy more online, what do we do with the commercial real estate? All these jobs may be unimportant to you or me, but they were important to the people who had them.
Which is why everyone is complaining about tech people making $250k/year ruining Portland/Bend/Austin/etc. I'm sure Tech Mahindra has people with my skillset just clamoring to work for $15/hr.Take if from people in mfg or electronics, remote s/w development is even easier to send overseas.
Loved driving my moped down to the waterfront in the AM listening to Boz Skags on my CD player, grab a baguette and coffee, smoke a joint and watch the morning begin. Huahine, was my choice of relaxation. Pape'ete, for the continuous daily mur mur vibe ~
Rarotonga, (where I was living) was only an hours ride away on Hawaiian Air from Pape'ete.
Yessir! Best days were those dayz!Loved driving my moped down to the waterfront in the AM listening to Boz Skags on my CD player, grab a baguette and coffee, smoke a joint and watch the morning begin. Huahine, was my choice of relaxation. Pape'ete, for the continuous daily mur mur vibe ~
Rarotonga, (where I was living) was only an hours ride away on Hawaiian Air from Pape'ete.