lots of construction site shootings?
your work sculpts the minds of citizens and future leaders?
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your work sculpts the minds of citizens and future leaders?
Now you don't believe in statistics anymore?lots of construction site shootings?
your work sculpts the minds of citizens and future leaders?
to claim that being a builder is the same as being an educator
is utterly asinine.
but, yeah, I've never heard of a mass shooting at a construction
site.....do you have statistics on that?
I mean, everyone who works at a school now thinks about school
shootings...look at all the iron fences and security protocols being
implemented...regardless of likelihood.
it's a thing.
do you think about sharks when you surf?
is utterly asinine.
but, yeah, I've never heard of a mass shooting at a construction
site.....do you have statistics on that?
I mean, everyone who works at a school now thinks about school
shootings...look at all the iron fences and security protocols being
implemented...regardless of likelihood.
it's a thing.
do you think about sharks when you surf?
Iron fences and security protocols have been a thing
But the people who are implementing them are also terrible at math. The fact of the matter is the vast majority of people will never be involved in a mass shooting or a school shooting. Do you realize why they make national news? Because they're rare. Fender benders aren't being talked about by David Muir
Your shark example proves my point. No, I don't think about sharks because the odds of me being bitten by one are slim to none. I have a far greater chance of dying driving to surf or crossing the PCH
The only teachers making that much (the low end) would have to have been at the job about 20 years and taken a lot of extra course work (Master's degree at least). And that's before taxes. To be the at the high end of your quote they'd have to be working summer school. The "transparency" website must be a joke. Those are upper level administrator's salaries.
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I'm not saying teachers are low paid. Teachers who say they are low paid probably never worked as laborers. I worked in various aspects of construction for about 15 years (for a boat builder, contractors, furniture makers...) and because of that, the teacher pay seems pretty good. Benefits too. I can never complain about the benefits. But to say we are high paid is also misleading. Whenever I see statistics about salaries, the average teacher is right about in the middle.
And I guess it depends on where you teach, but the stress level can be extremely high. That's why I'm getting out as soon as I can with my minimum wage pension.
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Shootings? Seldom. Brawls yes. I will bet you that there are more construction deaths than teacher deaths.lots of construction site shootings?
your work sculpts the minds of citizens and future leaders?
U like like bets.
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Homeboy literally gave a firsthand experience as to why that site is a “joke” and inaccurate and you just dig your heals in the sand even deeper.
Sometimes you’re better off admitting you are wrong.
Do you teach now? Why are you denying the data on the transparency site?
It is correct. My brother and I share our salaries with each other and that site is correct down to the penny for him
No one ever said the job isn’t stressful, but that’s not the point here, the point is that the job is not underpaid, just like every other government worker in CA
Look up the police and fire salaries on that site
He did not give a firsthand account. He misunderstood how the “benefits” portion was calculated and was, simply wrong
Out if pocket medical costs aren’t subtracted from salary totals in any type of job. Homeboy didn’t realize how much money goes to her retirement
Go back and read his post again. Sometimes you’re better off just keeping your mouth shut
So he’s wrong about his own wives benefits because you #ireaditontheinternet?
Yeah that makes sense.
For MBP
“So I looked up my wife. They got her base pay correct, but magically gave her $28K of benefits. Her employer cost of health, dental, and vision is actually just under $12K. For those benefits she pays another $9000/yr with an $8K deductible. And she only gets 10 paychecks a year.”
When you look at the site on mobile, there are less columns and no roll over menu. When you look at it on a computer you can roll over each heading and see how it is calculated. The “Benefits”
column says Health + Retirement in the roll over menu.
So the worst I’m guilty of here is giving a site with a shitty mobile GUI
I wish i could see how much my company pays total for my benefits. I know how much they give for pension
“So I looked up my wife. They got her base pay correct, but magically gave her $28K of benefits. Her employer cost of health, dental, and vision is actually just under $12K. For those benefits she pays another $9000/yr with an $8K deductible. And she only gets 10 paychecks a year.”
When you look at the site on mobile, there are less columns and no roll over menu. When you look at it on a computer you can roll over each heading and see how it is calculated. The “Benefits”
column says Health + Retirement in the roll over menu.
So the worst I’m guilty of here is giving a site with a shitty mobile GUI
I wish i could see how much my company pays total for my benefits. I know how much they give for pension
your pay stub may show the amount your employer contributes to your
health, vision, dental, life, etc
I'm not sure that equates to literal cost, but it at least shows you how much
they contribute on your behalf.
I was just digging in to this today as my recent pay has been a few hundred
higher...it turns out I've maxed the social security deduction for the year so
it's a nice little spiff for christmas shopping.
I didn't say teachers are underpaid. But I posted the salary scale for teachers in LAUSD, the USA's second largest school district and there is just no way a teacher can make $300,000 plus. Maybe they include outside work? Maybe they are real estate agents on the side? Or Jesus?
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I disagree. $110K is not very good money in an expensive area. Maybe if you are 25 and single, or if you live way east of I-5, but if you want to buy a house and raise a family, forget it. With $110K you can maybe afford a $600K house. Not too many of those in the expensive areas where a dump is a million. Plus, IDK how many teachers in those expensive areas are making $110K. Top salary with a Master's degree in Santa Barbara is $94K after 23 years, Ventura is $95K after 27 years, and Santa Monica/Malibu is $100K after 18 years. So you get the idea. In LA Unified they might make a little more but a lot of that is Combat Pay.
With regard to including an employer's cost of benefits as "compensation": This is typical for health and paid time off packages in private industry, but not typical for statutory costs. No employer would consider their mandated-by-law portion of an employee's Social Security contributions or SDI costs as "benefit" or as part of a compensation package; it's just part of the cost of doing business. However, Transparent California does. Apparently, they include as "benefits" the district STRS contributions that are payments mandated by law. I believe that constitutes a large part of the "Benefits" listed in Transparent California. So I guess I stand (partly) corrected, everysurfer.