Amazon minimum wage increase

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FecalFace said:
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FecalFace said:
Just because "that's how it works" doesn't mean that that's how it should work.

workers > shareholders
Sure. How would you fix it? How much more would Amazon need to pay to make you feel good about their company?
I don't know, how many billions is enough billions?
This is Billy thinking. You must have an idea what fair is - what is it? What do people who do jobs anyone else can do deserve to earn in America?
 

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FecalFace said:
Except capitalism that's fair to workers exists elsewhere in the Western Kultur.

How would you know, you've been nowhere and know nothing.
Keep telling yourself that

Are you a big fan of affirmation? If you keep saying things over and over again they'll become true?
 

FecalFace

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StuAzole said:
FecalFace said:
StuAzole said:
FecalFace said:
Just because "that's how it works" doesn't mean that that's how it should work.

workers > shareholders
Sure. How would you fix it? How much more would Amazon need to pay to make you feel good about their company?
I don't know, how many billions is enough billions?
This is Billy thinking. You must have an idea what fair is - what is it? What do people who do jobs anyone else can do deserve to earn in America?
I'll answer your question when you answer my question.
 

FecalFace

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ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
Except capitalism that's fair to workers exists elsewhere in the Western Kultur.

How would you know, you've been nowhere and know nothing.
Keep telling yourself that

Are you a big fan of affirmation? If you keep saying things over and over again they'll become true?
 

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FecalFace said:
ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
StuAzole said:
test_article said:
Companies offering inadequate pay are subsidized by welfare.
In a world with record job openings, there's no need for people to accept pay they don't feel is fair. If you can get a job at Amazon, you can get a job at Wal Mart or someplace else too.
That's a bullshit cop out.

There's no reason for Bezos not to pay his workers livable wages, other than greed.

This bullshit notion that "he did it all by himself", as though he created Amazon in a vacuum outside of American society, and that he owes nothing to anyone for his success, has to stop.
:foreheadslap:

God that's a disgusting notion

Who helped you? Are you giving away your money?
Hey look it's the Ayn Rand stale panty smeller again.

You don't exist in a vacuum. Amazon is not created in a vacuum and Bezos wouldn't get rich if he created Amazon on a deserted island without infrastructure and internet and paying people who help make him rich low wages.

I wouldn't have the same opportunities to pursue the work I love elsewhere.
I don't mind paying my share of taxes at all.
Where my tax money gets spent is another matter.

Speaking of disgusting notions, assimilate or GTFO. :poke:
We taxpayers are subsidizing companies that pay their employees too little. We're paying either way--directly or through taxation and gov't. borrowing.
 

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test_article said:
We taxpayers are subsidizing companies that pay their employees too little. We're paying either way--directly or through taxation and gov't. borrowing.
EGGZACTLY

But that's just "how it works". :shrug:
 

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FecalFace said:
test_article said:
We taxpayers are subsidizing companies that pay their employees too little. We're paying either way--directly or through taxation and gov't. borrowing.
EGGZACTLY

But that's just "how it works". :shrug:
Do you utilize write-offs for you business? Or do you pay full taxes?
 

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FecalFace said:
ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
Except capitalism that's fair to workers exists elsewhere in the Western Kultur.

How would you know, you've been nowhere and know nothing.
Keep telling yourself that

Are you a big fan of affirmation? If you keep saying things over and over again they'll become true?
Best picture ever

 

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We taxpayers are subsidizing companies that pay their employees too little. We're paying either way--directly or through taxation and gov't. borrowing.
Expand. How so?
 

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Why Amazon wage increase is not all it is hyped to be:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/technology/amazon-workers-pay-raise.html?smid=tw-nytimesbusiness&smtyp=cur
 

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I just can't believe Paul Ryan or his handlers or both allowed that photoshoot to happen
 

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FecalFace said:
Why Amazon wage increase is not all it is hyped to be:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/technology/amazon-workers-pay-raise.html?smid=tw-nytimesbusiness&smtyp=cur
I posted about this earlier in the thread

It was a bait and switch to get people like Bernie Sanders to STFU. So many times the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

That's why so many things do the best when left alone
 

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FecalFace said:
Why Amazon wage increase is not all it is hyped to be:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/technology/amazon-workers-pay-raise.html?smid=tw-nytimesbusiness&smtyp=cur
Yeah, I saw that. Doesn't change my thoughts. Bezos has no legal obligation to do anything different.
 

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StuAzole said:
FecalFace said:
Why Amazon wage increase is not all it is hyped to be:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/technology/amazon-workers-pay-raise.html?smid=tw-nytimesbusiness&smtyp=cur
Yeah, I saw that. Doesn't change my thoughts. Bezos has no legal obligation to do anything different.
We all know what is legal, we are discussing what is fair.
 

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I just need the stock to keep going up.

Stop picking on my little internet shopping company!

JB is a good man and he lifts weights!
 

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FecalFace said:
StuAzole said:
FecalFace said:
Why Amazon wage increase is not all it is hyped to be:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/09/technology/amazon-workers-pay-raise.html?smid=tw-nytimesbusiness&smtyp=cur
Yeah, I saw that. Doesn't change my thoughts. Bezos has no legal obligation to do anything different.
We all know what is legal, we are discussing what is fair.
I asked previously. What's fair? How much more for Amazon employees doing a job that millions of others do for the same or less?