The gun we are told was a Colt Revolver. Likely a 1873 Army Peacemaker or an 1851 Navy as these are the most popular Colts in Western movies. My post even specifically said in a Colt 6-shooter.
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Alex Baldwin killed his DP!
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Not sure why the type of gun matters, this is a failure of protocol.
And every person in the chain who failed to assure the safety needs to be prosecuted for wrongful death right down to the guy who pulled the trigger.
no, I 100% think they are using this as a gotcha
I'm not talking to/about El Ogro....it's the usual idiots to whom I am referring
I was thinking you guys are giving this guy a pass you'd NEVER give to someone on the right.
Agreed, we should prosecute the people who sold Nikolas Cruz his guns and ammunition, along with his parents.
this is obviously an improbable chain of errors that has cost someone a life and has damaged many others
your mistake is assuming other people are as craven as you
We have and you continue to claim that it is not the responsibility of the trigger puller to check and make sure the firearm they are going to use is properly loaded. It is. If the trigger puller is incapable of determining that the firearm is properly loaded, they should not handle the firearm period, end of story.
I feel for Baldwin, I'm a fan and think he is a great comedic actor, however, the responsibility for this persons death lays at his feet.
I believe that the catch here is the context of a film set.
there are protocols in place there.
I don't know how it all works, but my sense is that actors do not check guns before using them on set because there is a well defined protocol
maybe someone can clarify
in any other scenario, when someone hands you a firearm, you are certainly correct
this seems like a corner case
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that if we entrusted actors to be the last line of defense when it comes to safety on set, particularly when it comes to firearms, that there would be a lot more accidents then there are.
Yes, I’ve said it endlessly in this thread. Filmmaking is one of the places where all of the traditional rules of gun handling are frequently broken by design. Example, pointing a gun at something you don’t intend to shoot. Actors routinely point firearms at other actors, at extras, directly at the camera and those standing behind it, etc. Things that gun owners in the real world should never under any circumstances do. It’s gun safety 101 but you wouldn’t have a lot of the movies you do if Hollywood adhered to this. That’s why they take such drastic measures. Until we hear otherwise this sounds pretty clearly like a case of a mismanaged, low budget film where they cut corners, hired incompetent people and failed to adhere to protocol with deadly consequences. Baldwin is potentially up shits creek, not because he was the trigger man, and not because he failed to check the firearm, but because he was a producer on a film that was cutting corners,failing to address multiple complaints about safety violations including previous gun misfires. The production was likely operating under an LLC and should have insurance but that doesn’t mean he and other producers may still face some personal and perhaps criminal liability.
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There should be. The question is how much protection an LLC gives the individuals responsible.
The actor is the final link in the chain and has OR SHOULD HAVE a responsibility to check the firearm and handle it safely.