...and our nation is still in abandonment of the Constitution in the aftermath of 9/11.
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Mt. Rushmore
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What is that movie have to do with anything?
And who's banning movies? Overreacting maybe just a bit?
It's really hard for some white people to come to terms with the fact that this country was built on racism, discrimination and genocide and that they are losing ground as the dominant race.
Sooner you do it, sooner you can get on with your life.
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So if Hitler gave the Jews a casino, everything would be cool?
How many American Indians do you think got a casino? You think they all made out like bandits? They have the highest poverty rate in the nation, something like 25%.
In OZ i mentioned to an Aussie that I might go see Ayers Rock to which he replied...Mt Rushmore is probably the dumbest tourist attraction in the US. I was on a cross country trip and the hosts drove by it. The photos make it look huge, which it is . . . . . maybe if you are looking at it from a helicopter. From the ground it's so far up that it doesn't look like much. Why people drive out of their way to see it is
Why visit a rock in the middle of nowhere?
I didn't.
Don't even try that sh!t.
He compared Mt. Rushmore (which is pretty small and unimpressive in person) to statues of Hitler, Stalin, and others. He thought the Presidents on Mt. Rushmore represented an ugly past just like those other statues did in shithole countries. Those statues have been destroyed, and he thinks that Mt. Rushmore should be as well, part of "confronting the ugly past"
And then he slammed that sh!t in reverse and tried to say it was an allegory instead of the direct comparison it was
Learn what an analogy is ffs, you're a grown man. Also, learn wtf the "allegory" is, before you use it as a synonym for analogy. I've never mentioned word 'allegory' anywhere.
Saying that Americans have to confront their ugly past, like other nations did, does not mean Hitler=G-Wash
Should have stayed in school dummy.
analogy
noun
anal·o·gy | \ ə-ˈna-lə-jē \
plural analogies
Definition of analogy
1a: a comparison of two otherwise unlike things based on resemblance of a particular aspect
b: resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY
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I visited there a few years ago, also the Crazy Horse memorial. I though both were impressive but the thing that struck me the most was the beauty of the Black Hills surrounding the area.
I get that people tend to lay more importance on large, obvious landmarks that can be seen from miles around. But if people are going to complain about scarring the face of a mountain, what about that long road that was cut leading all the way up to it? Or the gift shop? Yeah, one wouldn’t exist without the other. But the selective outrage seems silly.
We can and should honor the people who helped build this nation. We can and should do a better job educating people the true cost in lives and cruelty inflicted while establishing this nation. That is the only way to learn from our past on our constant quest for a more perfect union. For all people.
I get that people tend to lay more importance on large, obvious landmarks that can be seen from miles around. But if people are going to complain about scarring the face of a mountain, what about that long road that was cut leading all the way up to it? Or the gift shop? Yeah, one wouldn’t exist without the other. But the selective outrage seems silly.
We can and should honor the people who helped build this nation. We can and should do a better job educating people the true cost in lives and cruelty inflicted while establishing this nation. That is the only way to learn from our past on our constant quest for a more perfect union. For all people.
That's true for every tourist attraction.Mt Rushmore is probably the dumbest tourist attraction in the US. I was on a cross country trip and the hosts drove by it. The photos make it look huge, which it is . . . . . maybe if you are looking at it from a helicopter. From the ground it's so far up that it doesn't look like much. Why people drive out of their way to see it is
Like queuing for hours to see Mona Lisa, with 500 other people, all with phones in the air, taking a photo of a painting that was reproduced and seen more than any other, and never looking at it again.
Unless I can find an interesting angle on a famous landmark, I just don't go.
When I do, it's mainly to people watch. You can get away with photographing people up close at tourist landmarks because everybody's cameras are out.
By your definition analogy: "a comparison"-thanks for proving me correct
Your little tantrum here also just destroyed your favorite "Y U SO BAD CUMPARISON" whining.
You made the comparison, own it.
LMAO "stayed in school"
Do you think I'm a dropout?
I agree
However constantly trying to correct mistakes and erasing history will never allow us to move forward
you're fecalizing, as you yourself might say
I can see how/why, since it was Billy's red herring argument that set this all off; he is the one
that made the Mount Rushmore comparison
Vespaghetti was making an argument based on the specifics of the confederate monuments
in response to Americans that want to keep/celebrate these statues, he says:
Baja Jake said:
Billy tried to slurpy soap it up with his leap from confederate monuments
to Mount Rushmore.
stay focused. don't lose the plot.
Bullshit.
The conversation is about Mt. Rushmore. Look at the thread title.
Fecal is talking about "carve Musolini's face in the cliffs of Sorrento"
Unless we took a detour to Stone Mountain somehow this is not about Confederate statues, this was about Mt. Rushmore
Anyone who knows the history of the confederate statues knows they need to go, but we've seen the iconoclasm go far past that just in a couple weeks