Yea drinking milk from another animal is really natural.
Happens everywhere in the wild.
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Can we talk for a second? Cutting sugar out of your diet......
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Happens everywhere in the wild.
Do you know of any other species that cultivate their own food?
How many of the foods you eat everyday actually resemble what they looked like in the wild before human intervention?
Even if you were to make the argument that drinking milk is not natural, how exactly does that make it unhealthy?
I agree with you that meat and dairy are less healthy foods than many of the alternatives and I fully support people who are vegan.
On the other hand, gorillas or chimps could figure out how to do it, they would......so the whole "it isn't natural" argument is kind of out the window. Animals (including humans) don't do something until.....until they do. And if it confers some selective advantage.......they keep on doing it, as was the case with consuming milk.
I cannot deal with cow milk. Gross.
Cheese, butter, ice cream....all good.
Cheese, butter, ice cream....all good.
Does this thread mean there won't be an erBB gallon milk challenge?
For the record, I heard the same tirades against milk during an Equinox pyramid scheme talk a friend tried to get me into way back when. Yeah, that wasn't a summer job I was interested in. IIRC, they wanted you to pay for your own desk.
For the record, I heard the same tirades against milk during an Equinox pyramid scheme talk a friend tried to get me into way back when. Yeah, that wasn't a summer job I was interested in. IIRC, they wanted you to pay for your own desk.
Even with milk consumption, there are anomalies in the animal world as well: "Red Billed Oxpecker—a bird that can perch on the udders of an Impala and suck its milk. Besides the Oxpecker, birds like Seagulls and Sheathbills have been reported to pilfer milk directly from the teats of elephant seals. So, while it’s quite rare, milk stealing does happen between certain other species in the wild." https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/species-drink-milk-another-species.html
Plus, what about animals that die in the wild with milk still inside them? Are vulture and other scavenging animals (which includes insects) not consuming that milk?
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Compared to what alternatives? How are you defining "healthy"? Meat and dairy have the ability to give you more protein with less calories and volume. Beef is arguably the most nutritionally dense food in the world. Plus you can always choose leaner cuts if saturated fat and cholesterol are a concern.
Some of the most nutritionally garbage foods are vegan foods that are designed to mimic animal products. Almond and rice milk are a perfect example, given that they are essentially devoid of nutrients and contain mostly sugar.
Gorillas and chimps also spend the majority of their day chewing on grass and leaves. Sign me up.
Veganism is far more unnatural for hominid species than omnivory.
Even the earliest proto-hominids like Australopithecus afarensis probably had some meat in the diet.
The appeal to nature is a very bad argument for vegans to make.
Veganism is an artifact of rich, western industrialised economies where calories are cheap and abundant.
Even the earliest proto-hominids like Australopithecus afarensis probably had some meat in the diet.
The appeal to nature is a very bad argument for vegans to make.
Veganism is an artifact of rich, western industrialised economies where calories are cheap and abundant.
Yeah, I mean......evolution and ecology are things. We are omnivores.
I used to eat a lot of candy and sweets. I hardly do any more. What worked for me was finding a mint that I liked (Icebreakers and Altoids). Whenever I crave sweets, pop one of those in your mouth. After eating a meal, pop one of those in your mouth. I hardly eat candy or sweets any more. Those mints are like 5 calories or something and have that weird sweetner taste to it. Makes you not want to eat anything after. At first I used eat like 5-6 of them a day, now I just eat 1-2 (after meals, when I usually would crave a dessert). Some days no mints.
I like the mini cinnamon altoids. They have a sugar alcohol instead of sugar or artificial sweetener, so I'm not sure what's better or worse.
Anyone know anything about the long term effects of how crazy much caffeine most of us consume? Not calorie related, but it could matter to a lot of our health. *shoulder shrug emoji*
It's the transition from Dutch Ovens to German Ovens (cabbage influence) that cause the trouble.
My wife cooks with a ton of garlic and the results, well, I tell her that she can't complain about the flatulence since it was her doing.
In a semi-related anecdote, we got a new sectional couch that is a lot comfier so I've at least got that going for me when I have excessive farts.
does it store the odor in the cushion? its always nice to plop down and get a micro sample of yesterday's gas. almost as good as ripping one in the car before you lock it up for the night.