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Why is wearing a mask so difficult?
- Thread starter hal9000
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No, they are not. Death rates have been basically falling off a cliff since the beginning.
At the end of the day, death count is the only thing that matters.
Not everyone but orders of magnitude more than have been tested
And this is also about comparing to previous pandemics. We don't talk about how many infected people died in the Black Plague or Spanish Flu, we talk about how many died out of the total population. This is a crucial point to show how minor this is compared to what humankind has gone through in even the recent past; worse plagues that they didn't purposefully shut down the world for
And after all, WE R ALL IN DIS 2GETHER!
Not exactly an accurate analysis.
Death counts increased substantially to 2,500/day until around Memorial Day and then decreased a bit as social distancing was generally occurring. But obviously everything went out the window and cases have exploded. You are starting to see this propagate with death counts creeping back up towards 1,000/day over the last week and change. That's the leading edge, the P-wave before the big shake if you will. 2 - 6 weeks from now, we'll see how fast the death count rises since you're looking at a death rate of around 5-6%. I'd say it builds back up to around 2,500/day again (at least) by early August. Being conservative with that.
Sure, if you count against total population rather than infection rate. Kento just told me we should be counting against total infections
So if there are more deaths but orders of magnitude more have been tested you get a lower death rate.
We can play with the numbers however we want to make our points
But you know as well as I do that the death rate of those infected is an important percentage, especially as you are in the middle of it as opposed to after it has run its course. Obviously this is nowhere near as deadly as Ebola but what would you be most interested in if you had a potential of exposure: the odds of death upon contraction or how many people had it total?
Not worth engaging. He just keeps moving the goalposts. He won’t see it as a problem until it affects him or his life.
Cut bait.
It is about how many people are dying out of the population, and that's all that matters in a pandemic situation where we're ALL basically at risk of getting this
It has been affecting my life. The cure is worse than the disease
It's about perspective
WE R ALL IN DIS 2GETHER
Knowing how many people have had it total is the most important to know, and the odds of death upon contraction are heavily skewed because of how this affects different ages. Saying it has a 6% death rate overall is disingenuous when someone who is 70 has a exponentially higher risk of dying of it than someone who is 40 or someone who is 15
But you have absolutely zero idea of how many people have actually contracted it, making any attempt at calculating a true death percentage a SWAG (at best). You go with the numbers that are actually tangible.
im not saying that we shouldn’t be looking for ways to open as much as makes sense, but the discounting of people who are old and people with high blood pressure, diabetes, or overweight, is insinuating that those lives matter less
and maybe some of those lives matter less, but many matter just as much as any other life
ignoring that makes it difficult to focus on your intended point
and maybe some of those lives matter less, but many matter just as much as any other life
ignoring that makes it difficult to focus on your intended point
All Lives Matter.
And besides, you are moving goalposts big-time there. The overall death rate right now as it stands is 8%.
When it comes to things like deciding whether to open schools or not those lives DO matter less than the lives of the youth, especially when you factor in potential of who can do what for society and the economy
See, I can think collectively!
OK. Is that more or less statistically significant than an overall death rate based on some amorphous number that anyone can make up?
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