What is an insurrection?

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It would have failed no matter what. More likely to fail if armed. Thanks for not being armed.
The constitution doesn’t limit the definition of “arms” to “firearms“. So I don’t think people will want to argue that the mob on 1/6 was unarmed.
 
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Mike_Jones

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which part of the constitution says it’s ok for a president to attempt to overturn an election, in violation of the US Constitution?


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Clause 2. Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress; but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

Clause 3. The Electors shall meet in their respective States and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted.
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Electors from several states were contested by their own legislatures, as specified by the Constitution, because the officials responsible for accepting and counting votes sabotaged and corrupted the votes.

Now let's find out which part of the Constitution allows states to exclude national political party candidates from their ballots .....because the 14th Amendment doesn't do that.
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hal9000

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Squidley is stupid enough to not realize that the Chump administration and his campaign were trying to install slates of fake electors, seize voting machines, and pressure states to “find” votes.
 

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Any U.S. law you can cite is subservient to the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment says:

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3: No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
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The 14th Amendment was written to resolve issues raised by the Civil War, and must be interpreted in that context. Regardless of the fact that the definition of the word "insurrection" means something far greater than Trump's actions on Jan. 6, the Civil War's actions were far greater as well.

Regardless, stating to a crowd that "I know you will" go to the capitol and "peacefully and patriotically" object to certification of illegally nominated presidential electors fails to match either definition.
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"Peacefully and patriotically" meant how to walk to the Capitol. "As you walk in anger to the Capitol don't fight among yourselves, save your anger for the Capitol police and fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore."

"STOP THE STEAL!!"

"I will be there with you!" And as hard as he tried to get to the Capitol to lead his mob, his secret service did not allow it because they would be at a tactical disadvantage.
 

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A rebellion is an armed resistance to an established government. Those who participate in rebellions are rebels.
Many of the Jan 6 mob did not pass thru magnetometers. Do you think none were armed? Some were stockpiling arms nearby. All it required was a spark, for one police or rioter to fire a shot, and everyone carrying pistols open up. Many believed the big lie, and still do.
 

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Many of the Jan 6 mob did not pass thru magnetometers. Do you think none were armed? Some were stockpiling arms nearby. All it required was a spark, for one police or rioter to fire a shot, and everyone carrying pistols open up. Many believed the big lie, and still do.
They are the dredge of society
 

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Clause 2. Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress; but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

Clause 3. The Electors shall meet in their respective States and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted.
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Electors from several states were contested by their own legislatures, as specified by the Constitution, because the officials responsible for accepting and counting votes sabotaged and corrupted the votes.

Now let's find out which part of the Constitution allows states to exclude national political party candidates from their ballots .....because the 14th Amendment doesn't do that.
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The whole electoral college has got to go. We will continue to have these fights, and will not really be a democracy, until we have a Presidency determined by voters rather than electors. Sadly, that will never happen.
 

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The whole electoral college has got to go. We will continue to have these fights, and will not really be a democracy, until we have a Presidency determined by voters rather than electors. Sadly, that will never happen.
Gaming the system
 

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The whole electoral college has got to go. We will continue to have these fights, and will not really be a democracy, until we have a Presidency determined by voters rather than electors. Sadly, that will never happen.
I agree