for a few boards that wasn't bad but so many places to go with other boards....
The right board for the right wave.
The right board for the right wave.
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It's true. All the WCT men jumped ship from CI.Are there really no more CI team riders on the WCT?
I’ve lost track of what everyone was riding but seems a lot of riders jumped ship from mayhem and CI.
Oh, so that's your vintage magic boar @Kento ? I have some understanding of this boar, however I am not here to take the Mickey. Instead I will back up your design choice. I still have this in size 6', photo taken yesterday. I acquired it quite cheap second hand a long time ago. It is from the era just before boars for regular size/ability people suddenly jumped up in width when the market realised the demand for crutches.That's pretty awesome.
I feel bad for Kento on that old JC. He can and at least surfs though!
6' is 5" taller than me so does make a step up. I see Kento, SBD must have meant your board resembled the JC.A 6'0" is a step-up? Well, sh!t.Nice looking board though.
Never surfed a JC actually. Most of my boards lately (i.e, last 20+ years) have been losts or Terry Senates. That lost 6'7" roundpin is my favorite. Not sure what shop is going to do with this but I figure they'll just round off the nose:..
I kinda think it's funny that my step-up will now technically be a 6'3". I probably made things worse by staying out with it busted like that but I wasn't going in without getting one of the better set lefts. Duckdiving waves did not help the structural integrity above and did not exactly slow down the yellowing. D'oh!
But hey, like I said elsewhere, went home after, washed suit out, grumbled a bit, cleared my head, and then went to local shop to get it repaired and while I was there, well, why not, what better time to order a new board! So a 6'8" roundpin with a little extra beef.
I blew it though in hindsight. In honor of this thread, I should have ordered it in an off-white/yellowish blotchy color. Next time. Also, even though I gave them dims, I realized later they never asked height/weight. Whoopsie. Well, it'll work itself out.
Gotcha! In color/wax tone, yep, there are some similarities! The funny thing with the nose of that board is that there were some historical ding repairs there that were starting to slowly suck in water anyways and they all got chopped off. They round it off, graft it, whatever, just so long as I can still surf that board. It's easily my favorite, especially for up here. Waves have a lot of push in general up here so having to generate your own speed off the drop is unnecessary. Generally, roundpins > squash.6' is 5" taller than me so does make a step up. I see Kento, SBD must have meant your board resembled the JC.
I know that your last custom did not perform to expectations, some of it attributed to limited shaper communication I seem to remember. They could graft some blank offcut onto the nose of your board. However it must be possible for a shaper to understand what sort of board you need without doing a full replication. Fingers crossed that the 6' 8" order will do the job. That sounds like a step up and it seems you now surf step up conditions fairly regularly after your move north. How wide?
who the f*ck surfs backside2ft pt breaks on the forehand or bust.
pretty much nails it.![]()
Fixedwho the f*ck surfs frontside
It's no good to have it uniform, it's gotta be blotchy yellow. But that would have cost a lot more.if you don't get a distressed yellow spray I'm going to be really disappointed.
Sounds good, 19 3/4" is not too wide for step up conditions and performance. I think I am similar to you - rail height is an absolute make or break dimension that has to be got right. Too chunky a rail and I'm not going to be able to drive it hard in turns on any sort of wave with juice. Too pinched a rail and its going to be unforgiving and make me either fall off or have to surf conservatively.... Dims I requested were 6'8" x 19 3/4" x 2 5/8" so a little beefier than I would get down south. Technically a stepup as my usual boards are 6'6"s. Still need to duckdive it too; I do a lot of that up here.
With that previous board, as soon as I saw the rails and felt how boxy they were, my heart sank. My quiver is depleted right now so looks like I am surfing that board for next few weeks at least; might as well. Lost about 10 pounds since last time I surfed it; maybe it will help a little, although float was not the previous issue.
The funny thing is the ol' 6'7" is currently at the shop getting the nose repaired by same shaper. I know he is a bit backlogged right now so plenty of opportunity to drop by the shop and mention those couple of things. I absolutely do not want to be that customer that provides input every couple days but at same time, that stuff is kind of important.Sounds good, 19 3/4" is not too wide for step up conditions and performance. I think I am similar to you - rail height is an absolute make or break dimension that has to be got right. Too chunky a rail and I'm not going to be able to drive it hard in turns on any sort of wave with juice. Too pinched a rail and its going to be unforgiving and make me either fall off or have to surf conservatively.
Boxy Vs eggy is another matter. Nowadays tail rails are varying degrees of boxy (as in almost square in shape in the rear part of the board), I like boxy tail rails, but the overall height is more important. The mid rail section of a board is more critical to me in terms of rail height for the reasons I mentioned and I think no mid section rail is truly boxy in the part that is penetrating the water surface in a turn - but the way it blends into the deck can give the impression of boxy Vs eggy.
My local custom is the best HPSB I ever owned - local design honed by their sponsored surfer with custom dims and rail height tuned for me. Sponsored surfer recommended model "X" to me. I took my existing Chilli board in for the design consultation as a reference point of what I am comfortable with. I said that I was not looking for a replica of the Chilli, instead I was after a new design experience and wished to faithfully retain the model X design, I was however very sensitive to rail height. What the shaper did was take some precision calipers and measure the height of the rail of my Chilli at 3 points corresponding to the slices he puts into the software design - my calipers measure about 1.5" in from rail apex so I am guessing his did that. The 3 points were the mid point and 2 rear slices. The front rails were just adjusted proportionally without trying to exact match the Chilli.
The local custom design rails actually look more boxy in the mid section because they blend into the deck roll with a bit of a bevel, but actually they are not more boxy and the height is the same as my Chilli.
The shaper was clearly used to the situation of boards not turning out like the customer wanted and told me that if the shape is not what the customer imagined they can sometimes put it in the second hand rack and give a deal on another one, however the size of my board and the colours I asked for might make that a bit difficult. When I went to pick it up, I grabbed it by the mid section rails to feel the thickness and said "this is going to work". Its got quite a different rocker distribution to my Chilli, but it does perform beyond my expectations
If they haven't started your board and you didn't get a rail height measurement taken from your vintage magic boar then maybe taking it in for a rail height reference is something you could consider?