Trump proudly poses with biker gang, also covers up mysterious patch for photo op.....

Duffy LaCoronilla

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JEwing said:
Fake News. The president was patting the guy that just led the crowd in reciting the National Anthem on the arm. A frame grab that had to have been vetted by some vile video editor.
Deliberately done....
 

Ifallalot

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Everything FecalFace disagrees with is “fascist”

If you want to see my refutations, there’s years worth of threads here to search
 

everysurfer

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ifallalot said:
Everything FecalFace disagrees with is “fascist”

If you want to see my refutations, there’s years worth of threads here to search
Fecal constantly throws lies and accusations at others. He is completely unbound by facts and reason. I wonder why you guys reply to him. Do you reply to a two year old calling you a poo poo face? If you met him face to face, would you give him the time of day, or let him wash your windshield?
 

2surf

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everysurfr said:
ifallalot said:
Everything FecalFace disagrees with is “fascist”

If you want to see my refutations, there’s years worth of threads here to search
Fecal constantly throws lies and accusations at others. He is completely unbound by facts and reason. I wonder why you guys reply to him. Do you reply to a two year old calling you a poo poo face? If you met him face to face, would you give him the time of day, or let him wash your windshield?
Sadly, FecalFace is an immigrant. My guess because is he didn’t grow up in the states most of what he “knows” is from the media. I marvel at how quickly he can find damaging right wing images and stories to prove we dumb Americas are in fact the racist assholes he’s been taught to hate. He says he works as Filmer so his friends (no actual family) are bonafide weirdos that work in that business. Somebody do this guy a favor and introduce him to some real American culture , an intervention of sorts.
 

afoaf

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JEwing said:
everysurfr said:
ifallalot said:
Everything FecalFace disagrees with is “fascist”

If you want to see my refutations, there’s years worth of threads here to search
Fecal constantly throws lies and accusations at others. He is completely unbound by facts and reason. I wonder why you guys reply to him. Do you reply to a two year old calling you a poo poo face? If you met him face to face, would you give him the time of day, or let him wash your windshield?
Sadly, FecalFace is an immigrant. My guess because is he didn’t grow up in the states most of what he “knows” is from the media. I marvel at how quickly he can find damaging right wing images and stories to prove we dumb Americas are in fact the racist assholes he’s been taught to hate. He says he works as Filmer so his friends (no actual family) are bonafide weirdos that work in that business. Somebody do this guy a favor and introduce him to some real American culture , an intervention of sorts.
maybe the most bizarre post I've ever seen
 

Billy Ocean

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afoaf said:
JEwing said:
everysurfr said:
ifallalot said:
Everything FecalFace disagrees with is “fascist”

If you want to see my refutations, there’s years worth of threads here to search
Fecal constantly throws lies and accusations at others. He is completely unbound by facts and reason. I wonder why you guys reply to him. Do you reply to a two year old calling you a poo poo face? If you met him face to face, would you give him the time of day, or let him wash your windshield?
Sadly, FecalFace is an immigrant. My guess because is he didn’t grow up in the states most of what he “knows” is from the media. I marvel at how quickly he can find damaging right wing images and stories to prove we dumb Americas are in fact the racist assholes he’s been taught to hate. He says he works as Filmer so his friends (no actual family) are bonafide weirdos that work in that business. Somebody do this guy a favor and introduce him to some real American culture , an intervention of sorts.
maybe the most bizarre post I've ever seen
That means we need to raise the bar!

:dancing:
 

FecalFace

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DerDer said:
ifallalot said:
DerDer said:
ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
You’re not an ultranationalist?
You don’t hate diversity and immigration, especially from MUSLIN countries?
You don’t despise liberal democracy?
You don’t love populism?
You are not an authoritarian who wants to put women back into kitchens, ban abortions and put trans people in mental institutions?
You don’t love guns and incite violence?
You don’t wear neo-fascist uniforms, like Nazi skinheads and brown shirts before you?

:roflmao:

Neo-fascist piece of sh!t with no balls to own it.

:roflmao:

And you'd still be wrong

No matter how many times you stomp your feet and say it its not going to come true
How is he wrong? Can you provide any support for your premise?

I’m not saying that you or the proud boys are fascist (or neo-fascist), but your group does share many views with well known fascist regimes. If that’s not true, prove him wrong.
Is he talking about me or the Proud Boys?

Those questions from him are all mischaracterizations bordering on lies about me especially and the Proud Boys as well. We've been going over this for literally years, nothing is going to change his mind, nor is it worth the time.

He thinks everyone who disagrees with him is a FACSIST BIGET, simple as that
I believe he's talking about both. I don't know about the depth of your specific view points, but the Proud Boys (as some are shown in the graphics that FF has posted) do share many similar views with identified fascist regimes. Hence, I understand FF's train of thought. If its not true, and merely a mischaracterization -- then how so?
He belongs to Proud Bois. So it's all one and the same.

Everything listed on that flyer reeks of neo-fascism, great majority of the "normal society" sees it that way, but ifall always claims "nuance".

Like that makes any difference.

Like when every KKK member claims they are not racist, every Proud Boi claims they are not fascist, they are just celebrating white man and the things he built, like Western Culture, which by the way is the BEST.

"We Built This" is the oldest white supremacist // neo-fascist cliche.

From Proud Boi manifesto:






 

manbearpig

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ifallalot said:
DerDer said:
ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
You’re not an ultranationalist?
You don’t hate diversity and immigration, especially from MUSLIN countries?
You don’t despise liberal democracy?
You don’t love populism?
You are not an authoritarian who wants to put women back into kitchens, ban abortions and put trans people in mental institutions?
You don’t love guns and incite violence?
You don’t wear neo-fascist uniforms, like Nazi skinheads and brown shirts before you?

:roflmao:

Neo-fascist piece of sh!t with no balls to own it.

:roflmao:

And you'd still be wrong

No matter how many times you stomp your feet and say it its not going to come true
How is he wrong? Can you provide any support for your premise?

I’m not saying that you or the proud boys are fascist (or neo-fascist), but your group does share many views with well known fascist regimes. If that’s not true, prove him wrong.
Is he talking about me or the Proud Boys?

Those questions from him are all mischaracterizations bordering on lies about me especially and the Proud Boys as well. We've been going over this for literally years, nothing is going to change his mind, nor is it worth the time.

He thinks everyone who disagrees with him is a FACSIST BIGET, simple as that
I'm not going to call you or the proud boi cucks fascists. But I've seen you vehemently defend them and get just as emotionally invested in doing so as fecal gets throwing the word fascist at them, and I've yet to see you use any kind of reasoning to rebuttal his claims.

So? Prove him wrong. It should be simple.
 

~rwright~

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Surfdog said:
"Grab them by the pussy" was locker-room bravado, and not meant for public consumption. Many guys talk up their supposed macho, or how women fall over them. Hollywood is notorious for this, if you're a power player. Women trying to get their foot in the door, will do almost "anything" to get a chance at stardom. Trump <snip>
So "Grab 'em by the pussy" was locker~room bravado?
Ok, and Donnie did not f**k a Playboy Playmate of the Year
nor a porn star while married to Melanie, err, Melania,
his 3rd wife~y...

Question for ya,
Is this quip by Donnie 'bout a lil' 10 year old girl, locker~room banter too?
"I'm going to be dating her in 10 years"
:dancing:
 

kidfury

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RWVBWL said:
Surfdog said:
"Grab them by the pussy" was locker-room bravado, and not meant for public consumption. Many guys talk up their supposed macho, or how women fall over them. Hollywood is notorious for this, if you're a power player. Women trying to get their foot in the door, will do almost "anything" to get a chance at stardom. Trump <snip>
So "Grab 'em by the pussy" was locker~room bravado?
Ok, and Donnie did not f**k a Playboy Playmate of the Year
nor a porn star while married to Melanie, err, Melania,
his 3rd wife~y...

Question for ya,
Is this quip by Donnie 'bout a lil' 10 year old girl, locker~room banter too?
"I'm going to be dating her in 10 years"
:dancing:
he’s a jokester! Lighten up! You have money now! You never had money before trump was president.
 

2surf

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RWVBWL said:
Surfdog said:
"Grab them by the pussy" was locker-room bravado, and not meant for public consumption. Many guys talk up their supposed macho, or how women fall over them. Hollywood is notorious for this, if you're a power player. Women trying to get their foot in the door, will do almost "anything" to get a chance at stardom. Trump <snip>
So "Grab 'em by the pussy" was locker~room bravado?
Ok, and Donnie did not f**k a Playboy Playmate of the Year
nor a porn star while married to Melanie, err, Melania,
his 3rd wife~y...

Question for ya,
Is this quip by Donnie 'bout a lil' 10 year old girl, locker~room banter too?
"I'm going to be dating her in 10 years"
:dancing:

Basically Trump bragging about getting some like most guys do with other guys, but by the power of social media this quote has turned out into a global outrage about Trump having a history of sexual assault and being a sexist. Even though he clearly says "they just let you", implying consent.

To see just how far in the minority you are on this forum just notice the erBB “Hotties” collection.
 

Duffy LaCoronilla

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RWVBWL said:
Surfdog said:
"Grab them by the pussy" was locker-room bravado, and not meant for public consumption. Many guys talk up their supposed macho, or how women fall over them. Hollywood is notorious for this, if you're a power player. Women trying to get their foot in the door, will do almost "anything" to get a chance at stardom. Trump <snip>
So "Grab 'em by the pussy" was locker~room bravado?
Ok, and Donnie did not f**k a Playboy Playmate of the Year
nor a porn star while married to Melanie, err, Melania,
his 3rd wife~y...

Question for ya,
Is this quip by Donnie 'bout a lil' 10 year old girl, locker~room banter too?
"I'm going to be dating her in 10 years"
:dancing:
 

Surfdog

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hal9000 said:
I thought Trump hated gangs. Maybe he only hates the brown-skinned ones. White gangs are A-ok. Love how he covered the one guy's patch, wonder what it says. My favorite is the one that says "Family of Vietnam Vet". So brave.

As I mentioned, let's see if any of the MSNBC crew that have this tweet on their feeds ever denounced it as false propaganda. Almost a week and still there. O'Donnell still has it at the top of his twitface account. Trump lies about stupid sh!t, but the MSM is not supposed to lie blatantly to us and call it "news". They're SUPPOSED to be above it all, but they clearly now have an agenda to do whatever it takes to go 100% negative and spread falsities about Trump whenever possible 24/7/365.

Might as well call themselves CheetoNN and MSNBCheeto. No where else can you get this kind of POTUS coverage 99% of their air time. Problem for them, is it's back-firing and become a worn and tired agenda. Move on already.
 

test_article

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Surfdog said:
Autoprax said:
Surfdog said:
1whoknows said:
Surfdog said:
Trump's no catch, and bull-shits like no other. He lies just like Obama lied about Obamacare.

What's new?
so, you’re saying trump’s lying is on par with Obama?
When it comes to things that matter, Obama lied worse.
How are you quantifying this?

Feeling?
To answer you and 1whoblows, one example was how Obamacare wound SAVE the average person/family $2000 a year in costs/premiums. That was a HUGE economic whopper.

Mine went UP from $300 a month for a high end Platinum level COBRA plan (wife's plan I was on after she was laid off) to a $1500 a month Silver plan from 2010 to 2014. Had to switch plans and doctors just to get it back near $1200 a month.
Prove it.

Which President got your wife laid off?


 

FecalFace

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manbearpig said:
ifallalot said:
DerDer said:
ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
You’re not an ultranationalist?
You don’t hate diversity and immigration, especially from MUSLIN countries?
You don’t despise liberal democracy?
You don’t love populism?
You are not an authoritarian who wants to put women back into kitchens, ban abortions and put trans people in mental institutions?
You don’t love guns and incite violence?
You don’t wear neo-fascist uniforms, like Nazi skinheads and brown shirts before you?

:roflmao:

Neo-fascist piece of sh!t with no balls to own it.

:roflmao:

And you'd still be wrong

No matter how many times you stomp your feet and say it its not going to come true
How is he wrong? Can you provide any support for your premise?

I’m not saying that you or the proud boys are fascist (or neo-fascist), but your group does share many views with well known fascist regimes. If that’s not true, prove him wrong.
Is he talking about me or the Proud Boys?

Those questions from him are all mischaracterizations bordering on lies about me especially and the Proud Boys as well. We've been going over this for literally years, nothing is going to change his mind, nor is it worth the time.

He thinks everyone who disagrees with him is a FACSIST BIGET, simple as that
I'm not going to call you or the proud boi cucks fascists. But I've seen you vehemently defend them and get just as emotionally invested in doing so as fecal gets throwing the word fascist at them, and I've yet to see you use any kind of reasoning to rebuttal his claims.

So? Prove him wrong. It should be simple.
 

Surfdog

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test_article said:
Surfdog said:
Autoprax said:
How are you quantifying this?

Feeling?
To answer you and 1whoblows, one example was how Obamacare wound SAVE the average person/family $2000 a year in costs/premiums. That was a HUGE economic whopper.

Mine went UP from $300 a month for a high end Platinum level COBRA plan (wife's plan I was on after she was laid off) to a $1500 a month Silver plan from 2010 to 2014. Had to switch plans and doctors just to get it back near $1200 a month.
Prove it.

Which President got your wife laid off?
I've gone over the medical insurance increases those 3-4 years here before and don't need to do it again. But to condense.....

We paid what we thought was outrageous at the time $300 a month for a Platinum type COBRA insurance plan (similar to Cal state gov plans, I found after investigating) in 2013. When I shopped around for what I thought was way expensive COBRA then, I found that we were getting a deal compared to even Gold and high end Silver plans if paid direct. My boss was now paying for this, as he knew he skated for quite a few years as my wife had cheaper coverage for both of us with her employer.

So, we kept the COBRA plan the full 18 months, until it expired. From there on we paid more than double that for a decent Silver plan thru Blue Cross. Then it went up another $500 the next year ($1200 at start of 2015), then another $300 the following year (2016). I cancelled BC when they wanted $1500 a month for a basic Silver plan for Jan 2017. Went with Sharp Health and paid $1000 for a HMO type Silver plan (Jan 2017). It went up $200 for this year.

Doubt me all you want, but look up premiums on Covered Cal's website and plug in an age for 2 people in their mid-late 50's and prepare to be floored (if you don't meet lower income subsidies). We do OK, but far from rich by So Cal standards.

Wife was laid off during Obama, if that matters, and has had a hard time getting a similar well paying, full time, permanent employ since. She finally got a new permanent hire job, but it's part time and much less than she was making prior to 2012. She's been working temp a few times (3-6+ month stints), but because of our ages, employers, at that time (and still), would rather hire temps and not pay enormous insurance premiums that have doubled and tripled from 2012 to 2016. One employer dragged out her temp position for 1-1/2 years, just so they didn't have to pay high medical insurance premiums and other benny's.

Obamacare was a huge anchor dragging on what should've been a booming economy. 1% GDP was the new "take it and like it" "normal" from late 2014 to the end of the 2016. Trump's new less restrictive policies will prove that "new normal" 1-2% GDP a floundering failure of Obama's burdensome economic policies.

A business park near me is building and filling in large lots that have been sitting empty for 10-12 years. I haven't seen this much commercial building since the early 2000's.