Trump proudly poses with biker gang, also covers up mysterious patch for photo op.....

everysurfer

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Surfdog said:
Name a lie Trump's made that hurt you economically or personally.
That must be the most selfish thought ever.

Jews? Kill them

Women? Rape them

Children? Molest them

Everything is o.k. as long as it doesn't affect you personally.

My God, man! Get a conscience! Are you really that much without a soul to say such things without your own throat choking you.
 

Ifallalot

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FecalFace said:
ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
You’re not an ultranationalist?
You don’t hate diversity and immigration, especially from MUSLIN countries?
You don’t despise liberal democracy?
You don’t love populism?
You are not an authoritarian who wants to put women back into kitchens, ban abortions and put trans people in mental institutions?
You don’t love guns and incite violence?
You don’t wear neo-fascist uniforms, like Nazi skinheads and brown shirts before you?

:roflmao:

Neo-fascist piece of sh!t with no balls to own it.

:roflmao:

And you'd still be wrong

No matter how many times you stomp your feet and say it its not going to come true
You don't deny any of the Neo-Fascist things you stand for yet you claim you're not it.

:roflmao: :loser:


Keep screeching, neo-fascist piece of sh!t.
I've denied all of those before or explained NUANCE in my positions. I don't need to waste my time with your screeching anymore

If someone doesn't think exactly the way you don you think they are fascist. We've seen this played out for years.

You have issues
 

FecalFace

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ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
You’re not an ultranationalist?
You don’t hate diversity and immigration, especially from MUSLIN countries?
You don’t despise liberal democracy?
You don’t love populism?
You are not an authoritarian who wants to put women back into kitchens, ban abortions and put trans people in mental institutions?
You don’t love guns and incite violence?
You don’t wear neo-fascist uniforms, like Nazi skinheads and brown shirts before you?

:roflmao:

Neo-fascist piece of sh!t with no balls to own it.

:roflmao:

And you'd still be wrong

No matter how many times you stomp your feet and say it its not going to come true
You don't deny any of the Neo-Fascist things you stand for yet you claim you're not it.

:roflmao: :loser:


Keep screeching, neo-fascist piece of sh!t.
I've denied all of those before or explained NUANCE in my positions. I don't need to waste my time with your screeching anymore

If someone doesn't think exactly the way you don you think they are fascist. We've seen this played out for years.

You have issues

Aaaah, a NUANCED neo-fascist!

My favorite kind.

Ultranationalist who screeches about liberty while seeking to put people in mental institutions, hates Muslims and "venerates" the housewifes.

You are not fooling anyone.

If you denounced Proud Bois, let us know.

Otherwise, fascist POS. :poke:

:hah: WEST IS BEST \\ WE BUILT THIS \\ NOT FASCIST :poke:
 

mhurdle858

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ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
You’re not an ultranationalist?
You don’t hate diversity and immigration, especially from MUSLIN countries?
You don’t despise liberal democracy?
You don’t love populism?
You are not an authoritarian who wants to put women back into kitchens, ban abortions and put trans people in mental institutions?
You don’t love guns and incite violence?
You don’t wear neo-fascist uniforms, like Nazi skinheads and brown shirts before you?

:roflmao:

Neo-fascist piece of sh!t with no balls to own it.

:roflmao:

And you'd still be wrong

No matter how many times you stomp your feet and say it its not going to come true
How is he wrong? Can you provide any support for your premise?

I’m not saying that you or the proud boys are fascist (or neo-fascist), but your group does share many views with well known fascist regimes. If that’s not true, prove him wrong.
 

Autoprax

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Being part of a group is very beta cuck fvck if you as me.

You are condemning yourself to a subordinate position in a hierarchy.

Eagles don't fly in flocks.

 

Surfdog

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everysurfr said:
Surfdog said:
Name a lie Trump's made that hurt you economically or personally.
That must be the most selfish thought ever.

Jews? Kill them

Women? Rape them

Children? Molest them

Everything is o.k. as long as it doesn't affect you personally.

My God, man! Get a conscience! Are you really that much without a soul to say such things without your own throat choking you.
None of those are "OK". Those 3 claims/comparison personally affect someone.

Is Trump killing Jews or ANY ethnic group or minority? Is he raping or promoting rape of women? Is he molesting or promoting molestation of children?

I'd like to hear from these people or their families if so.

I was waiting for ANYONE, not just my own personal experience, to prove how any of Trump's BS and lies have harmed people economically or personally.

Lying is not an admirable trait by ANY means. But every single damn one of every politician has "lied" during their climb up the political ladder, and we've given them a pass, depending on their political slant. Some lies are obviously worse or intolerable, but it seems others are OK depending on their ultimate agendas we either agree or disagree with. Dems have to lie about their agendas to make them appealing to the moderates. Repubs do the same.

Face it. That's politics in todays and the last 242 years in the USA.

Unless they're causing people to die, be raped, molested or physically abused, their lies are just political BS fodder. We accept them when "our" side is in power, but not when the other is.
 

Billy Ocean

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Autoprax said:
Being part of a group is very beta cuck fvck if you as me.

You are condemning yourself to a subordinate position in a hierarchy.

Eagles don't fly in flocks.
This is why I always insist on wearing sunglasses during business meetings
 

Ifallalot

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DerDer said:
ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
You’re not an ultranationalist?
You don’t hate diversity and immigration, especially from MUSLIN countries?
You don’t despise liberal democracy?
You don’t love populism?
You are not an authoritarian who wants to put women back into kitchens, ban abortions and put trans people in mental institutions?
You don’t love guns and incite violence?
You don’t wear neo-fascist uniforms, like Nazi skinheads and brown shirts before you?

:roflmao:

Neo-fascist piece of sh!t with no balls to own it.

:roflmao:

And you'd still be wrong

No matter how many times you stomp your feet and say it its not going to come true
How is he wrong? Can you provide any support for your premise?

I’m not saying that you or the proud boys are fascist (or neo-fascist), but your group does share many views with well known fascist regimes. If that’s not true, prove him wrong.
Is he talking about me or the Proud Boys?

Those questions from him are all mischaracterizations bordering on lies about me especially and the Proud Boys as well. We've been going over this for literally years, nothing is going to change his mind, nor is it worth the time.

He thinks everyone who disagrees with him is a FACSIST BIGET, simple as that
 

kidfury

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Surfdog said:
1whoknows said:
Surfdog said:
Autoprax said:
How are you quantifying this?

Feeling?
To answer you and 1whoblows, one example was how Obamacare wound SAVE the average person/family $2000 a year in costs/premiums. That was a HUGE economic whopper.

Mine went UP from $300 a month for a high end Platinum level COBRA plan (wife's plan I was on after she was laid off) to a $1500 a month Silver plan from 2010 to 2014. Had to switch plans and doctors just to get it back near $1200 a month.

That's one lie I'll never forgive Obama for.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/521/cut-cost-typical-familys-health-insurance-premium-/

Kind of different what you’re calling a lie. Obama wanted to bring down people’s costs. Read the article. Comparing trump and Obama ends up being absurd.
:roflmao: Your link basically proved my point. :foreheadslap:

Promise broken is still a lie.
Since everything you think is true is false, your statement that the link I provided proves your point actually means that it DISPROVES your point, meaning I’m right and you’re wrong.
 

everysurfer

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Surfdog said:
everysurfr said:
Surfdog said:
Name a lie Trump's made that hurt you economically or personally.
That must be the most selfish thought ever.

Jews? Kill them

Women? Rape them

Children? Molest them

Everything is o.k. as long as it doesn't affect you personally.

My God, man! Get a conscience! Are you really that much without a soul to say such things without your own throat choking you.
None of those are "OK". Those 3 claims/comparison personally affect someone.

Is Trump killing Jews or ANY ethnic group or minority? Is he raping or promoting rape of women? Is he molesting or promoting molestation of children?

I'd like to hear from these people or their families if so.

I was waiting for ANYONE, not just my own personal experience, to prove how any of Trump's BS and lies have harmed people economically or personally.

Lying is not an admirable trait by ANY means. But every single damn one of every politician has "lied" during their climb up the political ladder, and we've given them a pass, depending on their political slant. Some lies are obviously worse or intolerable, but it seems others are OK depending on their ultimate agendas we either agree or disagree with. Dems have to lie about their agendas to make them appealing to the moderates. Repubs do the same.

Face it. That's politics in todays and the last 242 years in the USA.

Unless they're causing people to die, be raped, molested or physically abused, their lies are just political BS fodder. We accept them when "our" side is in power, but not when the other is.
I've got to ask, when you say has tRump raped anybody, are you ignorant or willingly blind? Have you forgotten "Grab them by the pussy"

When he separates children from their parents, allows strangers to foster them, and they turn up missing or prostituted, how can that not bother you?

How can you not be disgusted?

By your own words, it sounds like you sold out for 30 pieces of silver.

And lastly, are you able to stop and think about my accusations, or are you completely "knee-jerk" to what you already believe?

I haven't seen any tRump supporter be able to discuss their position with honest facts from both sides.

If you want to prove your humanity, explain how you approve of grabbing pussies, cheating and lying, fvcking pornstars while your wife is giving birth. .

Do this for your own sake, not anybody elses.
 

craigj532

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Surfdog said:
hal9000 said:
I thought Trump hated gangs. Maybe he only hates the brown-skinned ones. White gangs are A-ok. Love how he covered the one guy's patch, wonder what it says. My favorite is the one that says "Family of Vietnam Vet". So brave.

The outright dishonesty and "fake news" Maddow portrays in this one tweet alone speaks volumes about her propagandized agenda....

See for yourself in this video at about the 2:00 mark to validate the supposed "Confederate flag" Trump's "trying to hide". :rolleyes: :foreheadslap:

Such absolute dishonest framing and propaganda here. She's making the Russians proud.


MSNBC is pathetic, and this proves it. They're desperation is sad in itself.

P.S. Actually it looks like it's retweeted on half the MSNBC staff's sites. Joy Reid and O'Donnell included. And it's still there. Let's see how long they leave it.
What makes you think this tweet comes from Rachel Maddow?
 

Surfdog

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craigj532 said:
Surfdog said:
hal9000 said:
I thought Trump hated gangs. Maybe he only hates the brown-skinned ones. White gangs are A-ok. Love how he covered the one guy's patch, wonder what it says. My favorite is the one that says "Family of Vietnam Vet". So brave.

The outright dishonesty and "fake news" Maddow portrays in this one tweet alone speaks volumes about her propagandized agenda....

See for yourself in this video at about the 2:00 mark to validate the supposed "Confederate flag" Trump's "trying to hide". :rolleyes: :foreheadslap:

Such absolute dishonest framing and propaganda here. She's making the Russians proud.


MSNBC is pathetic, and this proves it. They're desperation is sad in itself.

P.S. Actually it looks like it's retweeted on half the MSNBC staff's sites. Joy Reid and O'Donnell included. And it's still there. Let's see how long they leave it.
What makes you think this tweet comes from Rachel Maddow?
I noticed that it didn't but she's allowing to stay posted on her twitter feed. Along with Joy Reid's and O'Donnell's. They still have it up on their twitter sites. So, by not denouncing it as false, she's letting the propaganda continue, which is typical of MSNBC/CNN hosts.
 

mhurdle858

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ifallalot said:
DerDer said:
ifallalot said:
FecalFace said:
You’re not an ultranationalist?
You don’t hate diversity and immigration, especially from MUSLIN countries?
You don’t despise liberal democracy?
You don’t love populism?
You are not an authoritarian who wants to put women back into kitchens, ban abortions and put trans people in mental institutions?
You don’t love guns and incite violence?
You don’t wear neo-fascist uniforms, like Nazi skinheads and brown shirts before you?

:roflmao:

Neo-fascist piece of sh!t with no balls to own it.

:roflmao:

And you'd still be wrong

No matter how many times you stomp your feet and say it its not going to come true
How is he wrong? Can you provide any support for your premise?

I’m not saying that you or the proud boys are fascist (or neo-fascist), but your group does share many views with well known fascist regimes. If that’s not true, prove him wrong.
Is he talking about me or the Proud Boys?

Those questions from him are all mischaracterizations bordering on lies about me especially and the Proud Boys as well. We've been going over this for literally years, nothing is going to change his mind, nor is it worth the time.

He thinks everyone who disagrees with him is a FACSIST BIGET, simple as that
I believe he's talking about both. I don't know about the depth of your specific view points, but the Proud Boys (as some are shown in the graphics that FF has posted) do share many similar views with identified fascist regimes. Hence, I understand FF's train of thought. If its not true, and merely a mischaracterization -- then how so?
 

2surf

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Fake News. The president was patting the guy that just led the crowd in reciting the National Anthem on the arm. A frame grab that had to have been vetted by some vile video editor.
 

Surfdog

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everysurfr said:
Surfdog said:
everysurfr said:
Surfdog said:
Name a lie Trump's made that hurt you economically or personally.
That must be the most selfish thought ever.

Jews? Kill them

Women? Rape them

Children? Molest them

Everything is o.k. as long as it doesn't affect you personally.

My God, man! Get a conscience! Are you really that much without a soul to say such things without your own throat choking you.
None of those are "OK". Those 3 claims/comparison personally affect someone.

Is Trump killing Jews or ANY ethnic group or minority? Is he raping or promoting rape of women? Is he molesting or promoting molestation of children?

I'd like to hear from these people or their families if so.

I was waiting for ANYONE, not just my own personal experience, to prove how any of Trump's BS and lies have harmed people economically or personally.

Lying is not an admirable trait by ANY means. But every single damn one of every politician has "lied" during their climb up the political ladder, and we've given them a pass, depending on their political slant. Some lies are obviously worse or intolerable, but it seems others are OK depending on their ultimate agendas we either agree or disagree with. Dems have to lie about their agendas to make them appealing to the moderates. Repubs do the same.

Face it. That's politics in todays and the last 242 years in the USA.

Unless they're causing people to die, be raped, molested or physically abused, their lies are just political BS fodder. We accept them when "our" side is in power, but not when the other is.
I've got to ask, when you say has tRump raped anybody, are you ignorant or willingly blind? Have you forgotten "Grab them by the pussy"

When he separates children from their parents, allows strangers to foster them, and they turn up missing or prostituted, how can that not bother you?

How can you not be disgusted?

By your own words, it sounds like you sold out for 30 pieces of silver.

And lastly, are you able to stop and think about my accusations, or are you completely "knee-jerk" to what you already believe?

I haven't seen any tRump supporter be able to discuss their position with honest facts from both sides.

If you want to prove your humanity, explain how you approve of grabbing pussies, cheating and lying, fvcking pornstars while your wife is giving birth. .

Do this for your own sake, not anybody elses.
"Grab them by the pussy" was locker-room bravado, and not meant for public consumption. Many guys talk up their supposed macho, or how women fall over them. Hollywood is notorious for this, if you're a power player. Women trying to get their foot in the door, will do almost "anything" to get a chance at stardom. Trump was a Hollywood player/insider for a while, and surely had women come on to him for favors in getting a roll or some chance at being noticed by the upper echelon in Hollywood. That sh!t has been going down for decades. Weinstein is just the tip of the ice-berg. Did Trump partake in Weinstein tactics? Who knows? If he did, the truth will emerge.

Obama and prior presidents also oversaw illegal immigrant children placed in foster care. Obama actually made this a "thing" more than prior POTUS. It's far from a good thing, but compassion for illegal immigrants and letting them pass go just to be "compassionate" ends up paying a sad price. The whole illegal immigrant/refugee issue is a giant cluster and needs total revamp, first with actually enforcing existing laws.

And lastly, I don't "approve" of sleazy personal behaviour WHILE SERVING AS PRESIDENT, and so far, I haven't seen any evidence of that. Everyone has a past they would love to go back and do over again. Not forgiving past transgressions, but no ones perfect, if that's what you're looking for. And until proven, it's all heresy/speculation anyway. :shrug:

Slick Willy was as bad or worse with women, and he's still held up as the gold standard for Dem presidents, after Obama.