Ryugyong Hotel-tier. Isn't that thing 47 stories too tall for that 'hood? Is the developer going to enter a John Deere riding mower and a primer grey 90s Ford Explorer on 24s in the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance?
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Ryugyong Hotel-tier. Isn't that thing 47 stories too tall for that 'hood? Is the developer going to enter a John Deere riding mower and a primer grey 90s Ford Explorer on 24s in the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance?
Yeah, there is nothing like it on this side of the city. It is outrageous on many levels. They are redesigning Sloat to be bike friendly and pedestrian safe(reducing traffic).. Great Highway is closed to cars on weekends and Holidays and sand swept days. Sand/beach erosion is removing the southern end of the Great Highway. So if built, it will be a huge traffic mess.
Ryugyong Hotel-tier. Isn't that thing 47 stories too tall for that 'hood? Is the developer going to enter a John Deere riding mower and a primer grey 90s Ford Explorer on 24s in the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance?
They will play the politics of redesigning it to only 40 stories to appease local concerns, three gender bathrooms in the lobby, put a Homeless outreach center in the basement, and a needle exchange kiosk in a side alley, and finish building it in 20 years. I'm sure it is already a done deal.
I was thinking “Coastal Commission to the rescue” but looked at a map and it seems Outer Sunset is not under their jurisdiction. Then I read the whole bay is not, but is under a local commission. Is that strip of coast also under local jurisdiction? I would guess, given SF’s “ radical liberal socialist” reputation, that there might be some resistance to such an abomination?
2700 Sloat Blvd
"City officials aren’t yet on board with the project. City staff wrote in a response to the new proposal that the building would be 316% taller than the area’s zoning regulations allow for, according to SF Yimby. The San Francisco Planning Department also wrote that the revised plan does not comply with the city’s planning code, meaning that rezoning would need to take place in order for the building to become a reality."
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"City officials aren’t yet on board with the project. City staff wrote in a response to the new proposal that the building would be 316% taller than the area’s zoning regulations allow for, according to SF Yimby. The San Francisco Planning Department also wrote that the revised plan does not comply with the city’s planning code, meaning that rezoning would need to take place in order for the building to become a reality."
Renderings released for controversial 50-story tower in SF's Outer Sunset
If built, the proposed 50-story skyscraper would tower over the city’s relatively flat...
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It'll be like Marina Del Rey or Santa Monica, or that hotel on the beach in Santa Cruz, the name of which escapes me...
Is it possible for our city to get any worse? Years of NIMBY b.s preventing real affordable housing. Stupid ass rent control and TIC crap laws. And this is the backlash instead. If it goes up, then expect the rest of the coast line to look like that monstrosity. No more offshore winds. Extra large poopsickles to dodge out in the lineups. All those snob hill and noe valley douchbags are laughing to the bank. Why not build a Tokyo style tower out in outer Richmond? I'm sure their $10M property will go up to a whopping $11M!
The shade footprint from that monstrosity alone (when the sun is out) would be horrendous. This should politically mobilize alot of neighborhood homeowners and residents that would otherwise stay away from politics.2700 Sloat Blvd
"City officials aren’t yet on board with the project. City staff wrote in a response to the new proposal that the building would be 316% taller than the area’s zoning regulations allow for, according to SF Yimby. The San Francisco Planning Department also wrote that the revised plan does not comply with the city’s planning code, meaning that rezoning would need to take place in order for the building to become a reality."
Renderings released for controversial 50-story tower in SF's Outer Sunset
If built, the proposed 50-story skyscraper would tower over the city’s relatively flat...
Google Earth
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Grease the right palms and anything can happen. This is apparently the third concept created for the building, so they've already submitted other iterations that failed. It's interesting they got this far, but if they decide to rezone that area to allow for it, then ...
I'd almost vote to let them build it if they could bring Leon back to life and re-open his BBQ joint across from the zoo. Otherwise no. We have Newsom and Scott Weiner to thank for this mess. They are happy to ruin CA just to collect more taxes and power. I just don't buy the housing crisis BS. It's always been expensive to live near the coast. You'll never convince me that you were ok when your rent was 2,500 but now that it's 3k your in a tent and will be saved by the highrise. Those MFers in tents are drugged out.
Pacifica is in the process of being ruined too.
My son in law's father grew up there and told me how salmon used to run in the creek that runs to the south end of LM and how he and his buddy got abalone off the point. That is long gone and it's gonna get a lot worse. My friend is on the planning commission and told me the war is gonna be lost. It will take time, but Ptown is being forced to build, build, and build. It's not about money to me, it's about the quality of life, which the politicians don't care about.
The reality is most people don't show up to the meetings and just bitch on nextdoor when the battle is over. Some communities are suing the state but Ptown is too poor for that. They won't be putting up a high rise in seaclift. I think they should just give 'em the finger. After all when Newsom doesn't like a law, he ignores it. Gay marriage was against the law when he was mayor and he just said F it. I'm doing it. I don't care about gay marriage one way or the other, but if you are a public official what gives you the right to break the law? We should have the same right. Weiner isn't even from here so why he was elected, I can't imagine.
A sales rep I know told me he took up surfing during covid....... Told me he's scared of LM cause he almost drowned there. Don't know his orientation but it seems like he'd fit right into one of the new "inclusive" groups. Chickenshit surfers?
They all ought to watch Blue Crush and paddle out on the NS.
Pacifica is in the process of being ruined too.
My son in law's father grew up there and told me how salmon used to run in the creek that runs to the south end of LM and how he and his buddy got abalone off the point. That is long gone and it's gonna get a lot worse. My friend is on the planning commission and told me the war is gonna be lost. It will take time, but Ptown is being forced to build, build, and build. It's not about money to me, it's about the quality of life, which the politicians don't care about.
The reality is most people don't show up to the meetings and just bitch on nextdoor when the battle is over. Some communities are suing the state but Ptown is too poor for that. They won't be putting up a high rise in seaclift. I think they should just give 'em the finger. After all when Newsom doesn't like a law, he ignores it. Gay marriage was against the law when he was mayor and he just said F it. I'm doing it. I don't care about gay marriage one way or the other, but if you are a public official what gives you the right to break the law? We should have the same right. Weiner isn't even from here so why he was elected, I can't imagine.
A sales rep I know told me he took up surfing during covid....... Told me he's scared of LM cause he almost drowned there. Don't know his orientation but it seems like he'd fit right into one of the new "inclusive" groups. Chickenshit surfers?
They all ought to watch Blue Crush and paddle out on the NS.
There's a great little breakfast joint on that block. What kind of a greedy heartless bastard would want to build a 50 story right there?2700 Sloat Blvd
"City officials aren’t yet on board with the project. City staff wrote in a response to the new proposal that the building would be 316% taller than the area’s zoning regulations allow for, according to SF Yimby. The San Francisco Planning Department also wrote that the revised plan does not comply with the city’s planning code, meaning that rezoning would need to take place in order for the building to become a reality."
Renderings released for controversial 50-story tower in SF's Outer Sunset
If built, the proposed 50-story skyscraper would tower over the city’s relatively flat...
Google Earth
View attachment 157861
Bunch of NIMBYs here. SF is a progressive city at least by American standards it's time we progressed with the rest of the developed world and nothing is more progressive than housing. Europeans and East Coasters are laughing at this aversion to high rise development. Also those of you whining about Gavin and Weiner - look, you voted for them, I voted for them. We'll vote for Gavin again when he runs for POTUSA. At the end of the day we like them and we like what they stand for. They were born here and they care about the state. That is why we chose them. Also @One-Off there is nothing socialist or progressive about NIMBYism, quite the opposite. NIMBYism is actually selfishness defined!
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There is a major liquification issue that close to the beach so I see that as a major issue especially with the MIllenium Tower still top of the news. It continues to lean despite millions in a re engineering effort and lawsuits left and right. Aside from that I see a massive pushback from the Sunset.
I get the ethos here but this proposal IMHO is pretty far from what you're talking about.
Europeans will purposely keep central business districts and high rises away from certain areas for aesthetic value. This construction is at the exact opposite corner of the city from where it belongs.
A non-trivial number of NYC people absolutely detest the eyesore residential high rises popping up in Manhattan. If you think the brownstone set in Brooklyn is going in for one of those things in Park Slope, that's a negative Rafterman.
You leave Manhattan and forget it. Where I grew up on the Treasure Coast has a ban on sh!t over like 2-3 stories - unless you grease all the right palms. You see lots of build-up sh!t in DC, or do you see lots of articles about affordability and traffic in Northern Virginia?
You think this gleaming monstrosity is going to be about high density affordable housing and walkability, situated about as far as possible from the high employment zone of the city?
It'll be luxury penthouses owned by a holding company based in the Bailiwick of Guernsey, itself a wholly owned subsidiary of some sh!t in the Cayman Islands, which is the investment arm of some Canal Zone outfit owned by a consortium in Malta that currently is majority-controlled by an enterprise in Macau. AKA an executive at TikTok or Huawei ducking the ChiComs and the rest of the regulatory apparatus.
For the water treatment plant, the EIR took into account hominids and other critters.
They would have to do this again I would think and now include my fellow homo superior, I mean, homo erectus, no, that's not right either, homo sapiens is what I mean.
Wonder what mitigation would be provided for all?
I was thinking they'd borrow this tech from the Japanese.........
<sarc>Bbbut, there will be 15 low income units. You are so mean. It's for the children. Don't you know there is a huge housing crisis? </sarc>
As 100's of thousands of people are leaving California...
This one immediately comes to mind -
maybe others will follow, maybe it’ll be a reminder of what happens when the palm greasers win.
maybe others will follow, maybe it’ll be a reminder of what happens when the palm greasers win.
Another lie perpetuated by the right wing media. Fellas, the world is changing and the population is growing. High density housing is the future. Skyscrapers are the sign of a world class city. And yes, they’e going to be in your backyard, because just like you other people want to enjoy the beach too. You can either change with it or be left behind pouting, miserable, and bitter. Or move to Texas.
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SF was built on greasy palms.
Milking the gold rush 49ers and Chinese indentured workers were the foundation.