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The House votes on TrumpCare today....What do you like about it, what do you dislike?
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Things I like about it:
1. It will probably go nowhere in the Senate and lead to lulz at the expense of Mitch McConnell, Tom Cotton, Donald Trump...
2. These people will be on the record with a Roll Call.
3. If passed, I expect it will most negatively affect 40-50 somethings in rural areas in states that didn't do Medicaid expansions
4. If passed, It will probably save me money as a 36 year old with no doctor to tell him what is wrong.
Things I don't like about it:
1. It would probably be funnier if it failed to get out of the House again.
2. The Democrats might be stupid enough to filibuster it in the Senate.
1. It will probably go nowhere in the Senate and lead to lulz at the expense of Mitch McConnell, Tom Cotton, Donald Trump...
2. These people will be on the record with a Roll Call.
3. If passed, I expect it will most negatively affect 40-50 somethings in rural areas in states that didn't do Medicaid expansions
4. If passed, It will probably save me money as a 36 year old with no doctor to tell him what is wrong.
Things I don't like about it:
1. It would probably be funnier if it failed to get out of the House again.
2. The Democrats might be stupid enough to filibuster it in the Senate.
This bill is not a healthcare plan, it's an insurance plan. Much like Obamacare, it's a big, fat government handout/subsidy for insurance companies.
I thought it said you could charge sick people more than 3x what you charge healthy people, community provision or whatever?GDaddy said:
That would mean the sick people will be effectively priced out of the 'healthy people' employer market most people get their insurance. They can go divvy up the high risk pool and hand out lolly pops and tombstones, and the rest of us pay lower premiums.
Or am I missing something?
IMO the costs of services at street level remains the primary problem for most people who are not getting subsidies. Putting the superusers in assigned risk pools and subsidizing their overuse of the services might mitigate the effects of that overuse on everyone else's bills but it doesn't offset the point that it shouldn't cost $10000 to set a broken leg.
I thought insurance was about spreading risk?
Wouldn't it be better to take the profit motive out of it?
Why not just pay insurance companies to run a single payer. They make money running it. Not not paying for sick people.
Wouldn't it be better to take the profit motive out of it?
Why not just pay insurance companies to run a single payer. They make money running it. Not not paying for sick people.
call it like it is : RepulsiveCon's called it "Obama Care"
kick the can down the road. After only 4 months the House GOP are sick and tired of dealing with the Health Care issue they've been screaming about for 8 years 
they want this shitty bill out of their domain as fast as possible. now they can blame the Senate when it fails.
they want this shitty bill out of their domain as fast as possible. now they can blame the Senate when it fails.
Should we do that for food? Water? Housing? Why start with healthcare, which doesn't even scratch the surface of basic human necessitates?Autoprax said:
Is it because of money and political donations?
I like that it shows what Republicans really stand for: party loyalty, meanness, greed, and stupidity.
It shows how if you build a straw man, no matter how ridiculous, the democrats will come running to defend it.Gnudz said:
No.VonMeister said:
Because BigMac costs $1 and heart surgery costs $200,000.
Any other stupid questions?
cause a company like Aetna can't afford to cut into it's $2.9 billion annual profits. how's the CEO going to live if he's $17 million annual compensation is hurt from giving a bunch of freeloaders more health coverage driving profits down.Gnudz said:
I know. I thought this too. IF you really want to do health care you kind of have to make people do stuff they don't want to do.VonMeister said:
Think how much we could save on health care if people were forced to do vigorous movement every day (dead lift and sprint train), drink water, eat heathy food, get a healthy dose of sun exposure and do positive social activities.
It would save billions.
Americans would never stand for this.
I don't know.
We got a lot of people making money off the status quo. They are going to fight to change it.
Maybe what marlow said in heart of darkness. "Exterminate all the brutes."
You're having trouble functioning lately. Your arguments have gone from dumb to silly.FecalFace said: