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Kauai Accident
- Thread starter john4surf
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Travel hint.
Don't fly in helicopters unless it's necessary.
Don't fly in anything unless it's nessesary.
Thanks
Condolences.
Death touches everyone at some point.
Don't fly in helicopters unless it's necessary.
Don't fly in anything unless it's nessesary.
Thanks
Condolences.
Death touches everyone at some point.
linemen are frigging beasts and heroes
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Four crashes this year one crashed in the middle of a kailua neighborhood one near the arizona memorial by a bunch of tourists waiting for their boat,another in the middle of downtown. All were tour or utility use.Ed Case is right industry never is able to regulate itself when it comes to profits. $1.4 billion was spent by tourists here in November. Money talks while safety walks. During the volcano there were complaints from hilo side around the airport. A bunch of tourists got hurt by lava bombs when a tour boat went in too close so his paying clients could get the best pictures.
Like GMO, copter tours are already on the bad side of west side kauaiians, this is their "save maunakea" inititaive for Kauai "Protect the Paaka'i". Hawaii island has the mauna. Oahu has the wind turbines in Kahuku and Kauai has the salt ponds in Hanapepe.
The locals are fed up and revolting in their own irrevelant way.
www.hawaiinewsnow.com
www.hawaiinewsnow.com
www.hawaiinewsnow.com
swap meet sellers everywhere are profiting but Craig Neff and Born Hawaii in Wailua were the original vendors
its always about the money
always is..
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Four crashes this year one crashed in the middle of a kailua neighborhood one near the arizona memorial by a bunch of tourists waiting for their boat,another in the middle of downtown. All were tour or utility use.Ed Case is right industry never is able to regulate itself when it comes to profits. $1.4 billion was spent by tourists here in November. Money talks while safety walks. During the volcano there were complaints from hilo side around the airport. A bunch of tourists got hurt by lava bombs when a tour boat went in too close so his paying clients could get the best pictures.
Like GMO, copter tours are already on the bad side of west side kauaiians, this is their "save maunakea" inititaive for Kauai "Protect the Paaka'i". Hawaii island has the mauna. Oahu has the wind turbines in Kahuku and Kauai has the salt ponds in Hanapepe.
The locals are fed up and revolting in their own irrevelant way.
Kauai leaders to discuss plans that might impact traditional salt making in Hanapepe
A battle is brewing over Kauai’s famed salt ponds of Hanapepe.
www.hawaiinewsnow.com
After another night of protests, number of arrests linked to wind farm opposition hit 200
After a quiet past few weeks, hundreds of protesters have been descending on Kalaeloa in recent days, showing their opposition to the project.
www.hawaiinewsnow.com
Cost of government response to TMT protest at Mauna Kea tops $10M
On Tuesday, Hawaii County said it’s spent at least $4.8 million so far on personnel and supplies.
www.hawaiinewsnow.com
swap meet sellers everywhere are profiting but Craig Neff and Born Hawaii in Wailua were the original vendors
its always about the money
always is..
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Barking Sands (west side) is one of the premier bases in anti-missile R&D. If I said much more I'd have to kill you.
We did a helo tour there with Safari, if I remember correctly, back in the early 90's on our honeymoon. It was beautiful to see Na Pali and Waimea Canyon that way, but do it once, and no need to do it again. It was a bit spooky, and I could imagine getting in the wrong place during erratic winds could be sketchy as all hell. Those canyons are steep and winds do all kinds of crazy up/down drafting.Those tours are kinda like dodging lightning strikes. Odds are with you most times, but there's always that remote chance if conditions aren't perfect.
We did a helo tour there with Safari, if I remember correctly, back in the early 90's on our honeymoon. It was beautiful to see Na Pali and Waimea Canyon that way, but do it once, and no need to do it again. It was a bit spooky, and I could imagine getting in the wrong place during erratic winds could be sketchy as all hell. Those canyons are steep and winds do all kinds of crazy up/down drafting.Those tours are kinda like dodging lightning strikes. Odds are with you most times, but there's always that remote chance if conditions aren't perfect.
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Maybe this will help:
Military Bases in Kauai
The island of Kauai has several important military bases, including the Pacific Missile Range Facility at Barking Sands.
www.kauaisurfreport.com
Been living, surfing diving and hunting here 20 years. Kauai is absolutely one of most beautiful and deadly environments in world. From crazy ocean currents, surf, winds and ocean predators Kauai is still really raw and if you don't respect that and know your own limits Kauai can take you out. Ive never been in one and always visiting friends and family hat there are enough things to do here without jumping in a helo with a complete stranger. Having said that my friends and family can't believe some of the spots I paddle out to on sizable swells. Sad for these families!!
I spent the last 14 years of my life involved in Military aviation maintenance in some way, shape, or form. I would never step foot in a tour helicopter unless my life depended on it.
Like someone else said, there's plenty to do on Kauai that you don't need to get on a helicopter.
Like someone else said, there's plenty to do on Kauai that you don't need to get on a helicopter.
I flew a military helicopter from Kuwait into Iraq. Bought 1 hour flight super close to the ground 200-500 ft and absolutely hauling in the Chinook at full speed. Was prob one of the scarier things I did on deployment and was clenching my asshole the entire flight.
Army helo pilots and flight crews are another level
Army helo pilots and flight crews are another level
The real tragedy......
is the constant harassment by tour helicopters on residents forced to listen to them, Safari and Paradise Helicoptors are the worst. Good riddance, rest in the hell they create.
is the constant harassment by tour helicopters on residents forced to listen to them, Safari and Paradise Helicoptors are the worst. Good riddance, rest in the hell they create.
i would assume that I (Or any other guy legitimately comfortable surfing waves of consequence on Kauai with no vest and no water patrol nearby) have a much higher chance of death by drowning, reef impact, sharks, heart attack, etc, that dying in a tour chopper. Does that assumption hold water, statistically? How many experienced lifelong surfers have died there over the last say 25 years? I’m not counting the tragic but different deaths of beginners with bad luck and/or judgement, or non surfers. There is some math involved but I wonder which is actually riskier. But again, the tour choppers scare me. Big-ish Kauai can be scary too but I crave that kind of scary . Not necessarily logical but the more I read on this thread from guys in the know, maybe that’s one thrill ride I can skip.
that’s it. Blade Seaplane only from here on out.
that’s it. Blade Seaplane only from here on out.
I went on a helicopter ride 30 years ago on the big island. Smoked a fatty before getting on and at one point the pilot turned on Pink floyd on the headphones. I thought "we are going to die" He was a bit of a daredevil- a former Nam vet.
It was an insanely beautiful experience seeing parts of the island we would never have seen, but I've never been in one since. My wife's cousin owns one in Guatemala. Always wants to take us to Belize in it. I'm good.
It was an insanely beautiful experience seeing parts of the island we would never have seen, but I've never been in one since. My wife's cousin owns one in Guatemala. Always wants to take us to Belize in it. I'm good.
What a sh*tty way to go out. 
Only time on a helicopter was a tour of Kauai (on our honeymoon). We ended up getting the front seats next to the pilot and had great visibility and low wind. Figured I should quit while I was ahead and have no plans to board one again.
A friend from my wife's business community was killed in a crash in South America last year. They were in a big group and getting into two helicopters when apparently he noticed something he didnt like about the other helicopter his wife was getting into, so he told her to trade places with him and go in the helicopter he was orginially going to be in. Crazy bad luck because he got it the one he didnt want his wife in and it went down killing everyone while she watched in horror from the other heli.
Only time on a helicopter was a tour of Kauai (on our honeymoon). We ended up getting the front seats next to the pilot and had great visibility and low wind. Figured I should quit while I was ahead and have no plans to board one again.
A friend from my wife's business community was killed in a crash in South America last year. They were in a big group and getting into two helicopters when apparently he noticed something he didnt like about the other helicopter his wife was getting into, so he told her to trade places with him and go in the helicopter he was orginially going to be in. Crazy bad luck because he got it the one he didnt want his wife in and it went down killing everyone while she watched in horror from the other heli.