I can't help but think that Trump's defeat or victory will be a harbinger of one of either the failure or resurgence of neoliberal policies.
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I'd say she's about as neoliberal as it gets.VonMeister said:Hillary isn;t a neoliberal. She's a grifter. She stands for nothing.
She's a neoconservative.hal9000 said:I'd say she's about as neoliberal as it gets.VonMeister said:Hillary isn;t a neoliberal. She's a grifter. She stands for nothing.
Maybe that's what he means.ifallalot said:She's a neoconservative.hal9000 said:I'd say she's about as neoliberal as it gets.VonMeister said:Hillary isn;t a neoliberal. She's a grifter. She stands for nothing.
So you feel that modern liberalism is grifting?hal9000 said:I'd say she's about as neoliberal as it gets.VonMeister said:Hillary isn;t a neoliberal. She's a grifter. She stands for nothing.
You know things are topsy turvey when democrats totally concede workers and individual liberties to the republican party.GWS said:Maybe that's what he means.ifallalot said:She's a neoconservative.hal9000 said:I'd say she's about as neoliberal as it gets.VonMeister said:Hillary isn;t a neoliberal. She's a grifter. She stands for nothing.
Just as NeoCons have a lot of things about them that are NOT old-school conservative, NeoLibs have a lot of things about them that are decidedly NOT what old school liberalism was about.
The Donald is getting rejected by both sides of the aisle, so, I'm not sure how much you can make out of his almost sure defeat.
VonMeister said:So you feel that modern liberalism is grifting?hal9000 said:I'd say she's about as neoliberal as it gets.VonMeister said:Hillary isn;t a neoliberal. She's a grifter. She stands for nothing.
in the same sense that most proponents of laissez-faire are "grifters", yes.ifallalot said:She's a neoconservative.hal9000 said:I'd say she's about as neoliberal as it gets.VonMeister said:Hillary isn;t a neoliberal. She's a grifter. She stands for nothing.
Geez I used to think GWB could have never been elected. People were smarter than that. He had a DUI. He did Coke. His Pappy got him a cush Military existence. He was a big Dummy. He did get elected. Twice. Fuck me.GWS said:Maybe that's what he means.ifallalot said:She's a neoconservative.hal9000 said:I'd say she's about as neoliberal as it gets.VonMeister said:Hillary isn;t a neoliberal. She's a grifter. She stands for nothing.
Just as NeoCons have a lot of things about them that are NOT old-school conservative, NeoLibs have a lot of things about them that are decidedly NOT what old school liberalism was about.
The Donald is getting rejected by both sides of the aisle, so, I'm not sure how much you can make out of his almost sure defeat.
We do. How about Trump? Can we agree that he's a POS?GromsDad said:Hillary is a POS. Nothing more. Nothing less. We should all be able to agree on that.
I'm not a fan of Trump and won't vote for him but I wouldn't put him in the POS category. Certainly not anywhere near the level of shitdom where Hillary resides.FecalFace said:We do. How about Trump? Can we agree that he's a POS?GromsDad said:Hillary is a POS. Nothing more. Nothing less. We should all be able to agree on that.